Abraham attempts to sacrifice Isaac on Mt. Moriah to God
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karlboll
· 1 year ago
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Quick question; How do you know it's God telling you? Because, I seem to hear "If God told me to .." and then it's always something awful like killing a kid or go to war or something. I dunno, maybe I'm not getting the whole religion vibe but it just doesn't feel like God, you know?
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party05
· 1 year ago
because it isn’t. Abraham was A specific and extreme example, one that has not been replicated to my knowledge since. In fact, while I don’t have sources at the moment, I recall there being several passages where in God explicitly stated he wouldn’t do stuff like this. I’ll have to come back with passages. bottom line, God would not ask us to do anything that contradicts his own teachings. Nonsense at the very least the New Testament.
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guest_
· 1 year ago
Lol. Ok. So let’s say that for the sake of discussion we said a deity existed, that’s sort of the big question right? People do HORRIBLE things and claim it is the will of some deity. The mentally unwell often claim to hear gods or fictional characters or dead people- and to them it is as real and intense as if it actually happened. So how does one KNOW? Is it possible that some Evil or malicious entities could also exist and speak in our heads or through our hearts if a deity can? Perhaps in the lord of abrahamic religion there would be some gravitas a divine creator would have so that unmistakably you would KNOW that’s the real deal- of course that didn’t seem to work for Jesus Christ who claims and is held by many to be a divine being but to others is perhaps just a nice man or a man touched. Though it does beg a question- is it perhaps the case that one can misunderstand god? In the Bible Moses and god are said to speak, and then Moses gets punished for not doing what was asked.
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guest_
· 1 year ago
So there certainly is a weak human link. Humans are prone to bias, vice, error, failings of character. There is an entire sect of Christianity that takes a message that god rewards he faithful to an extreme that is basically- “If you have lots of money you can’t be doing wrong because why would god reward that..?” Obviously that sect tends to be popular with the rich and religious whom might naturally like the idea that whatever makes them more money is probably good with their divine. An odd coincidence and hard to reconcile against most of the abrahamic books. Buuuut….
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guest_
· 1 year ago
Here’s the catch. Who said what you or I think seems godly is such? The theoretical being we speak of is an all powerful all knowing omnipresent omnipotent eternal and timeless entity. It’s like asking a 4yo old to answer a complex equation and then comparing their answer to a professor of mathematics and having the two answers differ; but saying you think the kid is smarter because their answer makes more sense to YOU. A problem in discussing a being like a god is admitting and processing just how insignificant we would be in every way- fundamentally stupid and powerless. Wrong. By default if one argued with the being proposed as the abrahamic god one would be wrong. In fact, the first story and first chapters of the Bible reveló el around humans eating the fruit that gave us out own idea of morality and clashing with gods morals and being expelled from paradise and then killing and raping and suffering for the rest of history and the entirety of the books because peoples morality…
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guest_
· 1 year ago
.. is fundamentally flawed. In fact- the age old and contentious discussion of the nature of good and evil and its many complexities could be taken as support of that. In the biblical context there is a simple answer to what defines good or evil. In that context, whatever god would say or want would be good. It wouldn’t matter what one’s personal morality was or one’s feelings on a matter. One would in theory just need to do as would appease their god. In theory a simple thing, in practice perhaps more complex. But that would largely be the way to put that in religious context. The creator and ruler of all existence would in theory be the only entity which could be the arbitrator of good and evil.
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