That would be fantastic! However, I feel like Disney would be too scared of getting sued by homophobes squawking about how Disney's teaching their daughters to be gay /:
I wish this could happen. I want it so badly....
But first, they need to have a princess with cancer. That's something everyone can get behind. Then, they can do the gay princess (: they will have broken the unconventional princess ice
Well, think about it, would little girls want their idols to be sick like them? I think they would prefer their princess to be healthy. I'm not sure, it's just a thought...
gay princess with cancer. her pet is a deaf pit bull that was fought. But the pit bull was a lover not a fighter. The princess (who was introverted for fear of anyone finding out where her true desires lay) rescues the little pit bull. Saves her and teaches her sign language. After giving the little pit bull a new life. the pit bull saves her. She detected the cancer in the princess. And then...
The Second Princess who was banished from her kingdom for trying to make laws and rule in place of her brother meets Cancer Princess and Deaf Pitbull. Banished Princess is moved by her story, but regretfully tells Cancer Princess that the only place that could possible cure her is the Capital City of her old kingdom. After a long and treacherous journey, dodging soldiers and weathering the harsh terrain, the finally reach the gate of the city, Cancer Princess, who's health had been steadily decaying, collapses. Banished Princess and Pitbull carry her into the city, only to be found by the guards. The King, Banished Princess's brother, is disgusted by the fact that his sister grew feelings for a dying foreigner woman, and orders for his sister to be executed and for Cancer Princess to be left to die. Right before Banished Princess is taken away, Cancer Princess speaks up, trying to stand. She begs the king to have mercy on his sister. She begs and pleads, while clearly in pain. This op-
-enly shakes the King. He orders the guards to unhand his sister and tells them to bring him the (whatever it is that's supposed to heal her). They return and give CP the (magic shit) only to find that she's too far along. It won't heal her fully.
The scene changes and shows CP and BP sitting on their thrones, CP visibly sick, but nothing horrendous. As the city cheers for its new queens, we see the ExKing in a tattered cloak, about to leave the city.
It cuts to a flash back of right after CP was given the (magic shit). The King, moved by what happened and disgusted by the idea that CP might have been fully cured had he given her the (magic) when she first entered the city, promises CP that he'll find a way to cure her, no matter how long or hard it'll take.
Cut back to him at the gate. He ponders to himself, thinking what could have possessed them to have fallen in love in the first place, and questioning what he would do in the same situation. He then rides into the sunset, sett-
I'm not against people being gay and lesbian do whatever you want but don't you think its just a wee bit irresponsible to tell little girls who have yet to form a mind about that type of stuff that its alright?
Homosexuality is natural by nature.
Anyways, if their parents are homophobic, then they're probably already berating their children on how sinful it is to be gay and, honestly, what kind of homophobic parent would even let their children watch this movie?
Gay marriage is like going to a restaurant and seeing what other people ordered, and then complaining about it. Just stupid and pointless, why do so many people criticize gays?
Excuse you, but humans are not reproduction machines. Everyone has their own feelings, and not everyone is gay. I'm tired of morons like you bringing up reproduction. There have always been gay people, always will be, just like straight people. Get over yourself.
Besides, plenty of species in nature are homosexual. Humans are the only ones who criticize and have any problem whatsoever with homosexuality. That's what's not natural.
Guest, how do you know other animals aren't shunning the other animals? For all you know the winner of the Kentucky Derby is usually the horse who can run the fastest from a giant gay horse cock?
Why not make it a fairytale where BOTH the prince AND princess are arranged to be married, but fall in love with other people of the same sex? Sure kids might not 'understand'. But isn't that what parenting is for? To TEACH your children? It's not going to 'make them gay'. It gives them the assurance to know that it's acceptable to be who they are. They need that. And so what if your son or daughter sees the gay character & says that they like the same sex like the character does? Love your child, regardless. Rant over.
I think instead of Disney doing it, we should have abc family do it. I mean it has accepted lesbians into it with its shows and stuff so why not? As Great as it would be for Disney to do it, it's probably sadly not going to happen....
A heavy princess? Yes.
But being Obese is a medical issue. And there's a huge difference between being fat and being obese. And despite what people claim, obesity has nothing to do with genetics. If you look back at the old world record holders for "Worlds Fattest" they're a lot slimmer than an obese person.
Well, I'm not talking obese but all the Disney princesses are so skinny and too skinny (have you seen Ariel's waist?) and I think it would be better to show different body types other than the slim, hourglass figure.
Why all the hate? On both sides. why are we hating the gay/pro-gay? Why are we hating on the anti-gay. you can't battle hate with hate. that doesn't even make sense. think about it: "i hate people that hate". One love, my fellow human beings. come on!
GUYS GUYS! BEAUTY AND THE BEAST INCLUDED BEASTIALITY OKAY? IF WE CAN INCLUDE BEASTIALITY WHATS WRONG WITH HOMOSEXUALITY? beauty and the beast didnt make little girls go make out with bears. equality and justice please. and maybe if a big corporation like disney made including the effects of homophobia, people would change their views? i dont know. just my opinion
I agree with your side entirely, but children who watch the movies produced HOPEFULLY don't know what beastiality is. I mean, they probably wouldn't know what lesbians and gay is either..... That's something that the parents can decide to teach them when they're ready ^-^
Can I say something? (Well, that's rhetorical, because I'm gonna say it anyways.) I always watched Disney princesses growing up and I absolutely idolized all of the characters and yet, SOMEHOW, I turned out to be lesbian, despite all of the heterosexual couples that I loved.
So, I think it's fair to say that from my experience, gay couples on TV do not influence anyone's being gay (by the way, it's not a choice, when did you decide to be straight?). I hardly even knew what homosexuality was until I seven and when my mother described it to me, I thought it was bizarre. Not bad, but bizarre because I had never heard of such a thing.
If anything, we should expose our kids to more homosexual characters just so they know that not everyone is like them or the people around them. So that they don't expect everyone to be white, straight, and Christian because that's not how the world works. I mean, it's fine if you are, but don't discriminate just because someone isn't.
any Christian who actually practices Christianity instead of faking like they practice it knows that judging others is a sin. Only God can judge others and apparently he approves of gay people or hey wouldn't exist. They're just as much God's children as everyone else.
What does being good and evil have to do with this? Being gay doesn't automatically make you evil. Plus, the world isn't that black and white. People have both good and evil in them, it's not possible to be entirely one or the other.
guys, don't feed into the ignorance. some people were dropped on their heads as a baby...it's not their fault they're oblivious to the obvious. retardation is not a choice! LOL
i know i said ignore the ignorant but i just gotta say this: shmoe93, you can be Christian and ACCEPT gay marriage. If you feel its wrong, then dont be gay and dont marry the same gender. If you are right God wont let them into heaven so effn chill with the hate. thats completely against Jesus's teachings. Before being crucified he said "i give you one more commandement: love one another as i have loved you." he gave no stipulations on whose was worthy of your love. "i'll pray for you" is what people who judgmental and think they are holier-than-thou say. And that is a sin. Please learn what Jesus was all about before you claim him. You make REAL Christians look like shitty/evil people.
fyi shmoe93, if you're female you better hush. thats against the bible as well. "I permit no woman to teach or have authority over men; she is to keep silent." Timothy 2:11
hey guys, i found some bible fun facts. This is just to show that you can not take the bible literally:
"A bitched shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the Lord." (Deuteronomy 23:2)
A bitched is someone who was born outside of wedlock, which means you were born before your parents were married. Being born out of wedlock makes you filthy, apparently; so filthy in fact that it takes ten genetic steps down the line to wash how filthy it makes you. So your family's 100% awesome to come to church in like a century or two if you're a bitched, which I guess is fair. Wait, but what if your dad abandoned you and your mom after she had given birth to you... that means you're going to be held responsible and deprived of God's love... which...Wow, this means that Christian orphanages are hypocritical institutions if they're taking these kids to church. Brutal.
another one:
If in spite of this you still do not listen to me but continue to be hostile toward me, 28 then in my anger I will be hostile toward you, and I myself will punish you for your sins seven times over. 29 You will eat the flesh of your sons and the flesh of your daughters."(Leviticus 26:27-30)
If you break even a single one of these rules, you need to eat your children. Doesn't matter how old they are, doesn't matter what you do, but if you disobey God and his ways, he's going to wreak some serious havoc.
In this part of Leviticus, it's really God making a bunch of threats rules and maybe he just got a little out of hand, but yes, he says that if you disobey him, he's gonna make you eat your kids.
OMG! MY FAV SO FAR:
"He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord."(Deuteronomy 23:1)
First of all, yes, the King James Bible actually calls them "stones." You are now aware of the fact that the "stones" euphemism is a Biblical reference.
Also, God hates people with testicular cancer, apparently.
If it wasn't already bad enough that these poor dudes have wounded stones and members, it turns out that if they choose to practice proper Christianity they can never go to church again? That's balls.
So the context of this passage is actually that people should be without blemish and should generally be "perfect" so that they can procreate well and contribute to the Lord's congregation by being fruitful and multiplying, so it makes sense that having a working pair of stones is necessary... it's just pretty brutal if you have no control over losing your "stones."
For the Bible thumpers/Hard-core CHristians:
"Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke [reason with] thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him. Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the Lord." (Leviticus 19: 17-18)
This one is not good for the NON-virgins:
"But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel: Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you." (Deuteronomy 22: 20-21)
The "father's house" in Paris Hilton's case would be any Hilton hotel, so we know that if fundamentalists were really taking everything the way "God" intended, then it should be a well-known and widespread Christian agenda to call for the public stoning of Paris Hilton.Also, there are edge-cases where if a little girl has an accident or is injured during sports, The Bible says they should be stoned to death.It's pretty well known that it's entirely possible (and not at all irregular) for a young woman's hymen to be accidentally broken due to accidents or even playing cer
or even playing certain sports like gymnastics.
This also means that in order to enforce a rule like this, we'd need to have regular "Hymen Checks" at churches, but we don't, because we're human beings and we're trying to live in a little thing called "society."
So then why let this one slide and not things like gay marriage?
I read it all. You get my respect for having the enthusiasm to type that all out lol. That and the fact you're most likely gonna get bashed for all that.
Can I just point out that the bible was written by humans. It has just as much importance as my own hand written holy book. Although, mine is shorter.
"And God looked down upon his subjects and said 'Don't be a bunch of dicks.' Fluffy:1"
I think this is perfect. Girls should know that it's okay to be different. And that they shouldn't give a shit about what society and homophobic people think of them. And if you truly love a person, nothing can stop you from being with them. And little girls need to know that. They need to know that they should be themselves, that each one of that is unique
I totally agree. Who gives a fuck about what people say. It's not a sin, it's not disgusting and it's certainly nothing to be ashamed of. Children growing up nowadays need to have all kinds of exposure and learn that whatever choices they make about who they love is okay.
I think there should be a deaf Disney princess who falls in love with a common boy who learns sign to be able to communicate with her. It would teach girls that it's okay to be deaf, to be kind and understanding to the deaf, and maybe teach them a few signs in the process.
It would be fine as long as it doesn't influence girls to make a serious life choice. Usually when we are kids we want to be just like the characters in Disney or whatever. So if it made them make a serious choice, such as sexual orientation just because a character in a movie did it, it wouldn't be right. Let them make the choice when they are ready for it
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well if they have seen countless straight princesses, what's wrong with a gay one?
Are you guys actually kidding me? I have nothing against gay people and I belive that we all are equal but you can't do this to the the children and influence them for the rest of their life, the don't understand and it's not ok.
I am homosexual and I can honestly say I would not allow my children to watch this because they would want to fall in love with the same sex just because their favorite princess did and they can be influenced to easily. If they choose to be gay then so be it but I will not stand by a movie that shows that to young and impressionable children.
Ok, but you're saying that if a child watches a movie with straight characters then they're going to be influenced to be straight, and that's ok? cvjose07, I think you need to think about what you've said. Being gay is ok, and should be introduced in that way to children early on. It may save some confusion later on about "right" and "wrong"
I don't see anything wrong with showing my kids this as long as the exposure is equal. Like, show your kids this movie and movies about heterosexual relationship as well. If they see and learn about both, they'll be more accepting of different kinds of sexuality. If they need to decide later on, it won't be solely from movies that "make them gay". Just a thought.
OH. Not sure why mind jumped to crazier things. Maybe I should have phrased my earlier comment differently; how many girls do you know strictly watched princess movies as they grew up? There's more variety to what they watch as they get older, they don't have to be limited to princess movies.
@ navybrats I'm a girl, and growing up I watched lots of princess movies and eventually got bored of it and started looking for other things to watch. All im saying is that girls will be exposed to a lot more than just princess movies, especially with what society is turning into.
Just so you know I grew up watching straight princesses fall in love with straight prince and I'm Bi. If the movies really influenced me that much I would be straight. If you think a 'gay' movie will turn a child 'gay', then why didn't the 'straight' movies keep kids 'straight'. Use logic, movies don't change a kid's sexuality.
Hahahahaha this has to be the stupidest post I have ever fucking read on funsubstance. To all the anti anit-gay's you are simply salty. Yes I said salty, since you are eternally seasoned on this issue. No one cares that you are gay. Live your life as you want. People will always find something they don't agree with you. Forcing your own point of views into the minds of children. We just follow the rules of nature. Did you ever think the princess wants to have kids and a family? Not just scissor another princess her whole fucking life while her 12 dwarves watch.
Sounds to me like you'd rather force your viewpoints on children since you agree with your own. Just because YOU don't agree with something doesn't mean it should be banned, laughed at, shot down, or called stupid. It makes you look stupid for being so intolerant.
Did you just.... Did you just imply that DISNEY should stop making princess movies, and instead put them on DISNEY channel? I not only think that you should seriously reconsider your wording, but your choice of words as well. Little girls, for the most part, watch Disney princess movies as if they are a ceremonial cult activity. Girls hopes and dreams can sometimes lie on these movies for years or so. So don't go around spewing out uneducated facts from your so called "opinion." The only opinions are ones that have relevant backup, and clearly, this does not.
right because it's not like straight people make gay babies. If anything it's heterosexuals that are to blame for gays being here. It's not a disease you fucking inbred FUCK
No it's you fags brainwashing kids to express how they really feel. When all of you are already matured with years of thought. Just because you realized doesn't mean others have or ever will.
So by making EVERYTHING hetersosexual and showing just heterosexual things to your kids while they're growing up is much better than showing them both sides, because you're worried about "brainwashing your kids"?
I know I'm a bit late in on this conversation, but did I read that right? 'Brainwashing kids to express how they really feel' umm... What? "Brainwashing" implies 'bad', right? I fail to see the logic...
I am not one to jump on people who disagree with me.... But today I'm feeling special. Opinions are fine, it's what define you as a person. HOWEVER, BLUNTLY describing ting someone because of their opinion, giving them titles such as "retard" and "sick" is unacceptable. You think that gays and people who support them are retards? *tsk tsk* A retard is someone with a mental disability who, ironically, are more open and wide minded about the world and other people than you will ever be, and I hope you know that "retard" is a title to be proud of, because hell, some of my good friends are retards, and they seem a hell of a lot better than you're presenting yourself to be.
But first, they need to have a princess with cancer. That's something everyone can get behind. Then, they can do the gay princess (: they will have broken the unconventional princess ice
The scene changes and shows CP and BP sitting on their thrones, CP visibly sick, but nothing horrendous. As the city cheers for its new queens, we see the ExKing in a tattered cloak, about to leave the city.
It cuts to a flash back of right after CP was given the (magic shit). The King, moved by what happened and disgusted by the idea that CP might have been fully cured had he given her the (magic) when she first entered the city, promises CP that he'll find a way to cure her, no matter how long or hard it'll take.
Cut back to him at the gate. He ponders to himself, thinking what could have possessed them to have fallen in love in the first place, and questioning what he would do in the same situation. He then rides into the sunset, sett-
Anyways, if their parents are homophobic, then they're probably already berating their children on how sinful it is to be gay and, honestly, what kind of homophobic parent would even let their children watch this movie?
But being Obese is a medical issue. And there's a huge difference between being fat and being obese. And despite what people claim, obesity has nothing to do with genetics. If you look back at the old world record holders for "Worlds Fattest" they're a lot slimmer than an obese person.
So, I think it's fair to say that from my experience, gay couples on TV do not influence anyone's being gay (by the way, it's not a choice, when did you decide to be straight?). I hardly even knew what homosexuality was until I seven and when my mother described it to me, I thought it was bizarre. Not bad, but bizarre because I had never heard of such a thing.
If anything, we should expose our kids to more homosexual characters just so they know that not everyone is like them or the people around them. So that they don't expect everyone to be white, straight, and Christian because that's not how the world works. I mean, it's fine if you are, but don't discriminate just because someone isn't.
"A bitched shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the Lord." (Deuteronomy 23:2)
A bitched is someone who was born outside of wedlock, which means you were born before your parents were married. Being born out of wedlock makes you filthy, apparently; so filthy in fact that it takes ten genetic steps down the line to wash how filthy it makes you. So your family's 100% awesome to come to church in like a century or two if you're a bitched, which I guess is fair. Wait, but what if your dad abandoned you and your mom after she had given birth to you... that means you're going to be held responsible and deprived of God's love... which...Wow, this means that Christian orphanages are hypocritical institutions if they're taking these kids to church. Brutal.
If in spite of this you still do not listen to me but continue to be hostile toward me, 28 then in my anger I will be hostile toward you, and I myself will punish you for your sins seven times over. 29 You will eat the flesh of your sons and the flesh of your daughters."(Leviticus 26:27-30)
If you break even a single one of these rules, you need to eat your children. Doesn't matter how old they are, doesn't matter what you do, but if you disobey God and his ways, he's going to wreak some serious havoc.
In this part of Leviticus, it's really God making a bunch of threats rules and maybe he just got a little out of hand, but yes, he says that if you disobey him, he's gonna make you eat your kids.
"He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord."(Deuteronomy 23:1)
First of all, yes, the King James Bible actually calls them "stones." You are now aware of the fact that the "stones" euphemism is a Biblical reference.
Also, God hates people with testicular cancer, apparently.
If it wasn't already bad enough that these poor dudes have wounded stones and members, it turns out that if they choose to practice proper Christianity they can never go to church again? That's balls.
So the context of this passage is actually that people should be without blemish and should generally be "perfect" so that they can procreate well and contribute to the Lord's congregation by being fruitful and multiplying, so it makes sense that having a working pair of stones is necessary... it's just pretty brutal if you have no control over losing your "stones."
"Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke [reason with] thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him. Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the Lord." (Leviticus 19: 17-18)
"But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel: Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you." (Deuteronomy 22: 20-21)
The "father's house" in Paris Hilton's case would be any Hilton hotel, so we know that if fundamentalists were really taking everything the way "God" intended, then it should be a well-known and widespread Christian agenda to call for the public stoning of Paris Hilton.Also, there are edge-cases where if a little girl has an accident or is injured during sports, The Bible says they should be stoned to death.It's pretty well known that it's entirely possible (and not at all irregular) for a young woman's hymen to be accidentally broken due to accidents or even playing cer
This also means that in order to enforce a rule like this, we'd need to have regular "Hymen Checks" at churches, but we don't, because we're human beings and we're trying to live in a little thing called "society."
So then why let this one slide and not things like gay marriage?
"And God looked down upon his subjects and said 'Don't be a bunch of dicks.' Fluffy:1"
*1 Gay Princess movie*
*1 Billion Straight Princess Movies*