The bad guy already took it upon himself to determine the life or death of a human. God's plan is already messed up because of the criminal. Besides, can rapists really be considered human?
Well, I wouldn´t kill rapists. I´ll just catch them, and let the family of victim have the revenge. Or I´ll do every criminal (murderer, rapist...) the same thing they´ve done to their victim.
Yes, you right famousone, some criminals take the right to kill. But, doesn't justice exist to teach the difference between the good and the bad? Why would be good and bad killers? In my opinion, no one deserve to be killed. I am totally against the death sentence.
Yes, I consider rapist as humans. What does define a human? Some of them could possibly change one day. I'm not god, I don't judge, any Homo Sapiens is human through my eyes even some of them would deserve to be beaten really hard in the nuts.
I don't think they deserve the life they get- but at the same time it's a sort of hypocrisy to kill somebody for murder. I think they deserve to die, but there's no way to get around the fact that while morally they're a different species- they were still a baby like you, a child like you, still a human being- not a good one, or even decent, but human none the less. I guess I see it as sort of a necessary evil to kill people for the worst crimes.
I've lost track of who's arguing for death penalty and who's arguing for not...
But here's a question to those against the DP:
To what extent would you defend yourself if you were being mugged, violently robbed, or assaulted?
For me, I would do everything I could to inflict as much pain and suffering as I could; I'd even chew off their fingers and bite into their throat if I had to. I'm not gonna let anyone rob or hurt me.
Is this all that different than the DP? I see the DP as a distanced and sterilized version of self-defense; society is "self-defending" against violent criminals.
Yeah, but if someone were to say...pickpocket me and I caught them I'd probably just kick them in the balls and walk away. They weren't physically hurting me so I'll just mildly injure them for a week and leave.
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And a serious question...
If we were an eye-for-eye society, would we give fake rape victims a punishment equal to that of the person they accused of they had been convicted, or would we sell them on the streets for a day and/or until they had serviced _X_ amount of people?
I'm more for the sentiment than for a literal "eye for an eye". I'd rather skin and gut a rapist than rape them. Besides, what if they'd enjoy it? That wouldn't be much for punishment.
Wtf, Tylerchu?!?! "Or would we sell them on the streets for a day and/or until they had serviced X amount of people?" I agree that false rape accusers should be punished, but forcing them into prostitution?? What the hell kind of justice is that?! Not to mention prostitution is illegal in most countries.
In a completely eye-for-eye society
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Please read my description and preconditions. I'm not endorsing forced prostitution, I want to know what a vengeance-based justice system would look like.
That's not eye-for-eye. Forcing someone to be raped by several different people when they only claimed one person raped them is not eye-for-eye. Having someone raped /period/ is not eye-for-eye in any way in that senario, seeing as no one was actually raped. Let's say a man was accused of raping a girl and the accusation turned out to be false. A justifiable punishment for that would be for the girl to serve the same amount of jail time that he would have served as well as having to register as a false-rape-accuser. THAT would be a more eye-for-eye senario- she got the exact same punishment that he would have received had the accusation been true and had he been convicted.
i apologize if my question was a bit off-putting. I have a slight interest in revenge because I can't see any way for revenge to be perfectly dealt. Murder for example, takes a life and spreads grief. Revenge could either be killing the murderer to remove his life or do something to cause him grief which involves keeping him alive.
No, it's okay; I probably jumped the gun and overreacted anyway. But I agree- I too have an interest in revenge. Criminals do deserve punishment, but only if it's fair/equal. If it's an unjust/extreme punishment than we become just as bad as the criminal.
Yes, I consider rapist as humans. What does define a human? Some of them could possibly change one day. I'm not god, I don't judge, any Homo Sapiens is human through my eyes even some of them would deserve to be beaten really hard in the nuts.
But here's a question to those against the DP:
To what extent would you defend yourself if you were being mugged, violently robbed, or assaulted?
For me, I would do everything I could to inflict as much pain and suffering as I could; I'd even chew off their fingers and bite into their throat if I had to. I'm not gonna let anyone rob or hurt me.
Is this all that different than the DP? I see the DP as a distanced and sterilized version of self-defense; society is "self-defending" against violent criminals.
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And a serious question...
If we were an eye-for-eye society, would we give fake rape victims a punishment equal to that of the person they accused of they had been convicted, or would we sell them on the streets for a day and/or until they had serviced _X_ amount of people?
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Please read my description and preconditions. I'm not endorsing forced prostitution, I want to know what a vengeance-based justice system would look like.
Thanks.
*shivers*
I like it.