Because sports get money from the fans buying tickets and merch while doctors are mostly paid by tax dollars or straight from the patients
Plus, there are more doctors than athletes so there's less money to go around, especially when there are more in the staff involved in medical care
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So maybe the solution is to sell tickets to the operating theater?
Edit: I know this violates privacy laws. It's not meant to be a serious suggestion.
@ underyourbed yes, that is why professional athletes get paid about 5000% (not an exaggeration) or so more than they should. Wouldn't it be nice if someone who was actually doing something beneficial to society every day got paid that kind of money instead? If our society were focused on something more than keeping us entertained, we might actually maintain a position as a world power and leader of innovation. It is a position that was painstakingly carved out for us, and then summarily wasted so we can funnel money into people running around with a ball, or watching the same people pretend to be the same type of person countless times with a different name (and often the same name, with all of the sequels, prequels, and remakes).
Where do you suggest the money come from then ? I'm all for necessary workers getting paid more, but entertainers get paid that much for a reason ( mostly overpriced merchandise ) and taking money from them won't change anything. Raising prices for necessary workers won't change anything either. No one would go to the doctor anymore if it cost $500 for a simple checkup where all the doctor does is check your symptoms and asks how you're doing. Not even a blood test or x-rays.
We could make little changes that make a difference, like not making military personnel, police, and whatnot pay taxes. That's an effective ~20% pay raise for them. To pay off our debts, give the government employees who deserve it pay raises, put some government funding money in researchers' pockets, and begin to narrow that enormous gap between socioeconomic classes, we can stop those tax breaks that keep those people and companies that should be paying the highest % in taxes from paying any at all. Imagine the funds generated by raising the taxes on e.g. Apple by only 1%; then other huge companies and ridiculously affluent people as well. We could have subsidized occupations, like if you are an EMT, the government pays you some amount, in addition to your normal wages. As we know, charging more for visits only screws over the person who cannot afford insurance and does not put more money in the doctor's pocket or really help anyone in any way. You gotta think outside of the box.
But what about....signing a release waiver of privacy before a surgery, and people can buy tickets to your operation, and those funds go towards paying for your operation?! :P
Sorry, I need to go get coffee.
i have something to propose: if your life would be worth nothing to you, were it not for watching sports on tv, please wear a medical bracelet signifying that. we'll make sure we first save all the other people who'd appreciate life even if they'd never see another football match again.
sincerely, your future over-worked, super-stressed and underpaid doctor
ps: in case you meant that as in 'life would sooo suck if i weren't able to chase my son across the park or jogg or play tennis with mum', that's sort of understandable. if you meant it as in 'watching sports + sports culture etc', i'll be expecting you to buy a new piece of jewellery really soon.
Wasn't speaking for myself.
But I know that everyone has at least one stupid little thing that makes life just a bit more worth living.
Just because you don't value it, doesn't make it worthless.
And if you wanna be a doctor, you need to accept they your life may not be easy and comfortable. Taking away a harmless thing people enjoy just because you think you deserve more is selfish.
A pure and simple disregard for others is unbecoming of a medical professional.
I am pretty sure lindsmolinari is making the point that sports are not a necessary part of life, and should not be treated as such. They are were created for entertainment and as a way to keep military personnel in good physical condition (also, in some cultures, to solve disputes in a comparatively non-violent manner). It should not be a dominating part of society, throwing shadows over other things that should actually matter much more than they do. Sports are fine, watching them is fine, playing them is fine, but effectively worshiping athletes/teams is a long ways past the ridiculous line.
hey, dumbass, let me tell you a thing.
watching sports tv isn't vital for being alive. breathing is. Becham assists with the first, I intend to assist with the latter. Now, which one of us poor fuckers should be appreciated more and paid better?
Also, i see you want to talk about attitude? first off, i'm not studying to become a smiling machine/empathy-dispenser. i'm studying to become the person that shoves fingers up people's smelly asses in order to prevent them from dying of colo-rectal/prostate cancer. i don't have to appreciate what makes my patients happy. I don't even have to like my patients. you probably find that unbecoming of a med student, yeah, i get it. Well, in my eyes, condoning a world where people like Kardashians or some soccer player get payed fucktons of money just for existing while nurses, road workers, doctors, teachers and others have to constantly fight to be paid fairly, that's fucking unbecoming of a decent human being.
Now that I've officially signed on as a combat medic (68W) in the U.S. Army, I sat down to reevaluate my view on sports.
My views on this issue have not changed one bit.
Well unless we get those doctors performing a thrilling surgery and competing with other countries for how fast and successful the patient comes out in front of many people then things would be different.
Why should the medical field be bastardized and turned into some sort of game in order for the people saving lives to make enough money to pay off the debts they incurred for going to school for many years of their lives just to be able to do their job? The problem isn't that the medical field is not exciting, the problem is how our society is so obsessed with entertainment that we cannot appreciate important things just for the sake that they are important and necessary.
They play more than.just twice a week. some play every day for 8 hours practice and study steategies and playbooks. Not saying doctors dont deserve more money, but dont say an athlete doesnt work hard
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Well, technically they don't WORK hard. They PLAY hard. They definitely don't work.
Having been forced to deal with doctors for almost two years now, I can tell you 75% of doctors are over-paid hacks. It's gotten to the point I know more than the doctors do. If I didn't need medication and lab tests, I'd stop seeing doctors altogether.
If you into account average pay (not just the superstars) and career length, you'll find doctors are doing OK - even the over-paid hacks, unfortunately.
Unless you are a scientist or a doctor yourself, I can almost guarantee you that you do not know how to tie your shoes compared to what they know. You may have looked something up on the internet and maybe even learned more about your specific case of a particular disorder, but they have to be familiar with hundreds or even thousands of disorders, all of the organs and tissues, system integration, medications and interactions between medications, etc. Yes, they can look these up, but they did have to learn a lot more in college, pre-med, med school, and probably a specialty school than anyone without an upper-level science degree (or something similar). Go ahead and challenge your doctor to a medical trivia game if you think you know more; try and stay above zero points if the questions don't pertain to your specific condition(s).
toclafane,
Have you ever even been to a doctor before? You have this ridiculously naive view of how things work. Doctors don't know anywhere near the amount of information you think they do. It's just one giant guessing game. I've got an oncologist, a hematologist, a gastroenterologist, and a primary care doctor. After two years, TWO FUCKING YEARS, they haven't done a damn thing to make me better. Things continue getting worse and they just "Keep an eye on" all the old problems and the new because they don't know what's causing the problems or how to treat them. You can jump up and down cheering "Yeah, science" all you want, but until you've actually been in the position I'm in and experienced things first hand, you don't know fucking shit.
Yes I have. And I know quite a few doctors, personally. I did a summer internship at the Mayo Clinic in the pathology lab. Let's look at it this way, just because someone has a degree in calculus does not mean they can solve every calculus problem. Just because your doctors cannot solve your case does not make them idiots, and it certainly does not mean that you know more than they do. I understand that you are frustrated, and it really does suck for you; for that, I am sorry. I am in classes with people who are in college before they even go pre-med, and I am sure even they have more broadly applicable medical knowledge than anyone who hasn't gone to grad school in a biomedical science or med school. Because I actually do know shit, I know enough to realize that your claim of knowing more than your doctors is delusional.
Im pretty sure must olympians work their asses off and give up everything for their sport. Not saying that doctors aren't deserving of money or that ALL athletes are, but there is a reason that not everyone can play sports at such a high level.
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I get olympics. They work their asses off to earn that gold. Hell, if they get bronze, that is an achievement. They need to get paid for that.
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Okay, I don't like sports, but is no one going to point out that sweet ass kick that soccer player is doing?
but thats just the major athletes... so many people are athletes just for the fun of the game.. and there are so many doctors who DO make a ton of money doing it, sure more SUPER rich athletes than dr's but i bet it more than evens out.
I don't think we're dissing sports. I think we're saying they shouldn't make so much money. I love to watch soccer. I played soccer for 25 years. But they are still playing a game and really and truthfully don't deserve to be millionaires.
TWISE A WEEK?! YOU SHOLD KNOW THAT THEY PROBABLY HAVE SPEND LIKE THREE HOURS TRAINING EVERY DAY SINCE THEY WERE 10?! MAYBE THEY ARENT SAVING LIVES, BUT DONT UNDERESTIMATE THEM, THEY HAVE WORKED REALLY HARD TO BE WHERE THEY ARE RIGHT NOW. YOU BECOME A DOCTOR WHEN YOU GRADUATE, BUT A REAL SOCCERPLAYER IS BORN A SOCCERPLAYER, AND THEY SPEND THEIR WHOLE LIFES TRYING NOT TO WASTE THEIR GIFT, BY TRAINING, ALOT.
Plus, there are more doctors than athletes so there's less money to go around, especially when there are more in the staff involved in medical care
Edit: I know this violates privacy laws. It's not meant to be a serious suggestion.
Big time.
COME ON WORLD SUPPORT THE MEDICAL FIELD
GIVE SOME OF THESE MILLIONAIRE PLAYERS A BROKEN ARM OR SOMETHING
Sorry, I need to go get coffee.
sincerely, your future over-worked, super-stressed and underpaid doctor
ps: in case you meant that as in 'life would sooo suck if i weren't able to chase my son across the park or jogg or play tennis with mum', that's sort of understandable. if you meant it as in 'watching sports + sports culture etc', i'll be expecting you to buy a new piece of jewellery really soon.
But I know that everyone has at least one stupid little thing that makes life just a bit more worth living.
Just because you don't value it, doesn't make it worthless.
And if you wanna be a doctor, you need to accept they your life may not be easy and comfortable. Taking away a harmless thing people enjoy just because you think you deserve more is selfish.
A pure and simple disregard for others is unbecoming of a medical professional.
watching sports tv isn't vital for being alive. breathing is. Becham assists with the first, I intend to assist with the latter. Now, which one of us poor fuckers should be appreciated more and paid better?
Also, i see you want to talk about attitude? first off, i'm not studying to become a smiling machine/empathy-dispenser. i'm studying to become the person that shoves fingers up people's smelly asses in order to prevent them from dying of colo-rectal/prostate cancer. i don't have to appreciate what makes my patients happy. I don't even have to like my patients. you probably find that unbecoming of a med student, yeah, i get it. Well, in my eyes, condoning a world where people like Kardashians or some soccer player get payed fucktons of money just for existing while nurses, road workers, doctors, teachers and others have to constantly fight to be paid fairly, that's fucking unbecoming of a decent human being.
>people who like sports are terrible people
kek
My views on this issue have not changed one bit.
Do they play 2 days a week?: Oh hell nah, they train like 6-8 hours a day.
If you into account average pay (not just the superstars) and career length, you'll find doctors are doing OK - even the over-paid hacks, unfortunately.
Have you ever even been to a doctor before? You have this ridiculously naive view of how things work. Doctors don't know anywhere near the amount of information you think they do. It's just one giant guessing game. I've got an oncologist, a hematologist, a gastroenterologist, and a primary care doctor. After two years, TWO FUCKING YEARS, they haven't done a damn thing to make me better. Things continue getting worse and they just "Keep an eye on" all the old problems and the new because they don't know what's causing the problems or how to treat them. You can jump up and down cheering "Yeah, science" all you want, but until you've actually been in the position I'm in and experienced things first hand, you don't know fucking shit.
Too much stupid for me
Goes off to buy team and athlete gear, plus items advertised by athletes.