Pride parades do NOT need children near them if there's gonna be anything sexual
It's fine if people wanna be lowkey sexual at pride parades but please don't bring children into that
Being gay/having pride is not about sex, children should be around festivities celebrating life, but the sexuality of it should be kept separate, like beer gardens. It just sounds a little ridiculous to say "don't bring kids to this amazing, colorful celebration of life because there NEEDS to be sex"
This is why I struggle to support Pride unconditionally. Before I get jumped on, hear me out.
I do not think or feel that sexual preference defines you as a person any more than being a brunette does.
The idea that being LGBTQ means wearing BD SM garb or simulating sex acts or exposing yourself in public (at Pride or bars etc) does nothing but reinforce all the negative stereotypes that we have fought against forever.
It's counter productive to the cause. Celebrate, be proud of who you are and who you love. Just do it with respect and dignity.
Yea yea sure is always up to the sigle person. Although, basing on how society works, people generalise while the parents and also the person willing to show their genitals to a minor should be persecuted
Ok so the parent goes to it because it's public then? You say it as if it just so happens that the person doesn't notice a parade. There's more than one route to a place
So you're saying that they shouldn't take their kid to what should be a fun, colorful, parade where they can learn love comes in all genders, just so people can show their genitals?
WHO SAID IT WAS FOR KIDS!? You make it sound like gays are only about sexual deviance and the exposure to gay people is only going to be because of a parade...thats the job of the parent to discuss that people are gay and have normal lives without needing to go on these parades...
IT DOESN'T NEED TO, BUT IF IT DOES IT'S NOT YOUR BUSSINESS they're adults doing adult things with their own minds and consciousness...Minnesotta separates pride in family friendly and adult for example. NO ONE is forcing you to take your kid and pride won't change as much as you want it to...btw public exposure IS A crime and people in pride parades have been arrested for it
If it's public it's the public's business. You can be disruptive even if you're not intending to be. Also, pride parades are FOR EVERYONE. Kids, teens, and adults. If you want to have an event that's just for the adults, go ahead as long as you market it that way. But general pride parades that are in the public are supposed to be family friendly and seeing people in lingerie or even naked are not family friendly.
I visited SF when I was like 11 and a pride parade was going on as we were going from the airport to the hotel... I was confused for a little while, but it didn't "scar" me.
You clearly have never bumped into a gay pride parade in Europe... the German ones in particular. They go out of their way to sexualize the event into something very far from the actual goal of a Gay Pride Parade.
Society needn't discriminate, or make LGBT people feel uncomfortable, but I definitely can do without the exhibitionism element of the parades. Being LGBT doesn't mean "go dry hump in public", or "twerk while lubed up and wearing assless chaps".
Also dick slaps. I don't want to be dick slapped.
I disagree.... nudity is 100% acceptable. Sexualizing nudity maybe not.... but we don't go around trying to dress every freaking animal we come across. 99.999999999% of life on Earth is nude.
if we were all raised from birth to find it socially acceptable? Yeah. The problem starts when it becomes sexualized. With how society is now and this strange puritan mindset? HELL no.
wow a bunch of degenerates got together and acted like degenerates what a shock. maybe if they showed up to pride parade in normal pants,suit and tie and such we could take this seriously but it seams the ones that show up to this want special treatment and want attention. they should be proud how far back they set the hole gay movement and fuel the religious peoples fears.
Hey, heres an idea; Don't t take your fucking kid to Pride. These are the same assholes who who whined about Deadpool being rated R. Not everything in the world is safe for your kid. San Francisco Pride is not fucking Disneyland!
If you're trying to get EVERYONE to be okay with being gay then you can take your kids. You can't say that being gay is something you can explain to your kids or something that shouldn't be stigmatized then have the whole parade reflect those stereotypes.
I agree with some of this, but get a grip people, we're all naked under our clothes, we all have one of the two available options for naked bits - why the fuck are people so hung up about nudity?
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Only an Asshole would involve their children in this nonsense. 4% of the population wants to live a different lifestyle? Word, go for it. Get fucked in the ass and never experience the fulfillment that a traditional family provides. But you don't need to have a parade. There's probably more redheaded heroin addicts than fags in the world but we don't see them marching and showcasing lewd and socially unacceptable behavior.
If you were really secure in yourself you wouldn't need to include the world in your search for validation.
That's the thing. Because of people like you, they're not secure in themselves. Pride helps out with that, it gives them hope and a community. Until homophobia disappears off the face of the Earth (never?) Pride will always have a place and always have attendees. Plus, it's a lot of fun from what I've heard.
Idk about the traditional family part but the rest is about right. You like it in the butt, good for you now move on. When I lived in San Francisco for a couple years, pride parade day meant I was about to see 100 people in assless chaps walk by my window. That shits not cool, just nasty. Keep them cheeks to yourself.
News flash: your father also told you to love everyone. Didn't he say something about hating the sin and loving the sinner?
Oooh,look what I found!
"If anyone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love God whom he has not seen." 1 John 4:20
Idk for sure but wasn't there something about how being gay isn't a sin anymore ? Like Jesus died so that we wouldn't have to listen to some of what were held as sins and that's why you don't have to follow things like no mixed cloth or having to grow your hair out or avoiding pork ?
Technically Jesus himself overwrote all of the Old Testament, but obviously that's been argued over for the past 2000 years. The Catholic Church has come out and said that most of Levictus is just moronic and none of it is a sin.... but then you have other branches that disagree over all of it and thousands of other denominations that say this one is ok but that one isn't....
It's shit like that that makes me look at people who put so much faith in organized religion and just shake my head.
I get the god part.... feeling like you are cog in a bigger machine you can't possibly understand... but to really believe in any of those stupid rules besides the ones that morally make sense (don't steal, kill people or sleep with people in a relationship)... just makes me shake my head.
I don't think most of us religious types are putting our faith in organized religion, but in God, who is not a system of rules but a loving Person. Just to put my two cents in. (I am not the other guest. Please do not think I'm the other guest.)
It's fine if people wanna be lowkey sexual at pride parades but please don't bring children into that
I do not think or feel that sexual preference defines you as a person any more than being a brunette does.
The idea that being LGBTQ means wearing BD SM garb or simulating sex acts or exposing yourself in public (at Pride or bars etc) does nothing but reinforce all the negative stereotypes that we have fought against forever.
It's counter productive to the cause. Celebrate, be proud of who you are and who you love. Just do it with respect and dignity.
If so, public exposure/indecency is still a crime.
Society needn't discriminate, or make LGBT people feel uncomfortable, but I definitely can do without the exhibitionism element of the parades. Being LGBT doesn't mean "go dry hump in public", or "twerk while lubed up and wearing assless chaps".
Also dick slaps. I don't want to be dick slapped.
If you were really secure in yourself you wouldn't need to include the world in your search for validation.
Oooh,look what I found!
"If anyone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love God whom he has not seen." 1 John 4:20
It's shit like that that makes me look at people who put so much faith in organized religion and just shake my head.
I get the god part.... feeling like you are cog in a bigger machine you can't possibly understand... but to really believe in any of those stupid rules besides the ones that morally make sense (don't steal, kill people or sleep with people in a relationship)... just makes me shake my head.