I agree. Imo it sounds better to say December 12th 2017 rather than 12th of December 2017
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· 7 years ago
Maybe because you were brought up with it/ hear it around you all the time, that's why it sounds right to you. In my language I can't imagine anyone saying it month-day-year. Not only does it sound wrong, it is wrong grammatically speaking where I live
I'm not American and we use the metric system in my country, but it still sounds nicer to me. It's all subjective though.
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· 7 years ago
ooh this one is edgy, watch out guys
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· 7 years ago
I do admit, I like the metric system more, it makes more sense measurement wise, but since I grew in America, the only time I use it is in science so the US customary is all I know
Month/day/year is a logical order. While day/month/year is relational order. If you are guiding someone you generally give directions in order.
So looking at a calendar and directing you to a date, first I give you the month, then which day in the month, then a specific time if needed. The year is given last in both formats because few personal interactions require a year be specified, and if so it can usually be infered.
Simply put historically years were seen as the least used or least significant part of a date so are commonly last in most older formats. Picture it as an "address" to express a point in time. Just like when two people in the same city exchange the address of a landmark they wish to meet at, they omit the city name. It is inferred if we are in Green Bay and I say "meet me by the bay in ten minutes" that I don't mean Hudson Bay. Newer formats like ISO 8601 (already used in many countries) have advantages in data, less ambiguity, and ease of language independent understanding. This format lists years first and is found online and in many computer applications. Outside of data, historical record, and long term planning the year is rarely used and is often omitted entirely from conversation and even informal notation.
I use the ISO format whenever I'm free to pick one. Apparently that's also how dates work in Hungary. yyyy-mm-dd hh:mm:ss.ssssss . It goes from long to short, and alphabetical order coincides with chronological order.
I'm a pharmacy tech and the boards of pharmacy are actually trying to get doctors to use metric only. Because if it's say, 1 teaspoon, people will use a kitchen teaspoon and that isn't accurate at all. So if it's in milliliters they are kinda forced to use an oral syringe to measure and get the proper dose.
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· 7 years ago
Here's a question: why do Americans say 4th of July if they normally say the month first, like with May the 4th
Because July is named for Julius Caeser and America was created FOR freedom and awesomeness. We don't put dictators in front of freedom!
Also, May the 4th is a pun. Doesn't really work to say it the other way.
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· 7 years ago
I know may the fourth is a pun, but it does follow the normal rules. But there isn't any real reason why it's the 4th of july instead of july the 4th?
I hear "July fourth" as much as I hear "fourth of July". What's curious is that I hear both of those more than Independence Day which is the actual name.
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· 7 years ago
Huh, I never heard july fourth, but then again I don't live in america and I've also only heard fourth of july a handful of times
"The Fourth of July" is longer and sounds more formal than "July Fourth." "The" is a definitive and often a marker of formal English, it implies it is not just a date, but holds significance. English also doesn't like to have two stressed syllables in a row, so the "of" breaks it up. It's more about "branding" that date. In common parlance Americans use either format, or "Independence Day" as suits them. Until the late 19th century the British wrote dates mm/dd/yyyy which is where America got it from. Other European countries with influence on England (like France) used dd/mm/yyyy and the English picked it up. The US kept the "old" way because of far less geographic neighbors to need to standardize with, and a general aversion to being compared to the British. The US military uses dd/mm as a multinational force that works with NATO, it avoids confusion in coordinating efforts, but still uses mm/dd in civilian correspondence.
So looking at a calendar and directing you to a date, first I give you the month, then which day in the month, then a specific time if needed. The year is given last in both formats because few personal interactions require a year be specified, and if so it can usually be infered.
Also, May the 4th is a pun. Doesn't really work to say it the other way.