Well, to elaborate what I meant:
I was joking with the terminology, not the act. If you consent, then it's not rape it's sex
But obviously if you're being attacked you're not going to consent.
The joke was playing on the definitions. Sorry if you took it the wrong way, but my jokes never cross certain lines
@hopeforall in the US at least, if you are drunk enough, you cannot legally consent even if you actually mean it. Even what would be mutual consent would have to be looked at as two people raping each other at the same time... but that obviously can't happen either.
When it happens most courts just say it's a case of stupid decisions that becomes too ambiguous to be decided upon.
I agree that non-consensual sex is a definition for rape. I think (just my opinion) what the post was hinting at is that if, as a society, we simply use the neutral definition of the act rather than the name of the act (which has a negative connotation), then we strip the act of its monstrosity. When it comes to rape, we have to acknowledge that it is indeed a monstrous act and should use the word for it. We should be focusing on the negative nature of the act in order to deter people from committing it. I sincerely hope what I said makes sense because I feel like I'm not translating my thoughts into words very well.
A noble intent but maybe too absolute. If I get drunk and my partner drives me home, then I get frisky and we have sex- I wake up the next morning and have no problems. They ask me about it and maybe I don't remember and laugh, or I do and say so. We have breakfast. I've obviously consented. I consented after the fact. For those 8 or however many hours were they a rapist until my mind was clear enough to actually consent? Was the consent given before the fact by our relationship and the fact we have done it in the past? But marital rape is real, so even in marriage or a long term relationship consent can't be assumed 100%. Of course if I woke up and found out they had done "that thing" I told them I would never do EVER but I let them while drunk, I might feel differently. So by definition rape is not the same as non consensual sex. In those hours I was sleeping before I was able to truly consent I was not raped, it was not consensual legally, it was non consensual sex.
Women can rape too guest, one of my best friends had a woman force herself on him. Plus, haven't you ever heard of David Parker rays toy box? His accomplice was a woman that raped their victims
I'm pretty sure guest was saying that in jest. Anyway, I've had a woman rape me as well. I was drunk and a friend let me sleep in her bed (we were crushing on each other hard) since I was.. yeah. She leaves, her roommate comes back and starts to straddle me while i'm halfway in and out and I'm thinking it's her. The girl I think it is comes back in, flips the lights on and freaks out and it was only then I sobered up enough and realized it wasn't her in one fell swoop.
Not fun. Not fun at all.
I was joking with the terminology, not the act. If you consent, then it's not rape it's sex
But obviously if you're being attacked you're not going to consent.
The joke was playing on the definitions. Sorry if you took it the wrong way, but my jokes never cross certain lines
I'm crying from the laughter!
When it happens most courts just say it's a case of stupid decisions that becomes too ambiguous to be decided upon.
This is a great way to explain it
Not fun. Not fun at all.