It’s funny isn’t it? Your organs don’t care of you’re “tired,” or “don’t want to.” If you don’t get your daily activity you’re hurting your body. Organs don’t care if you feel fine, high blood pressure will kill you. So many things people commonly do are so unhealthy, but when people get up in arms isn’t when someone with high blood pressure is called attractive or put in a staring position. It’s when people are “fat” that suddenly the whole world wants you to change for your own good, so long as they don’t have to volunteer to do anything but point and judge. But maybe- just maybe- many people know they have unhealthy habits. Maybe they are aware they are potentially cutting their lofves short by eating that Twinkie or sitting on the couch instead of moving around. And maybe they are ok with that. Maybe as adults it’s their choice if they want to photosynthesize and try to live to 200, or eat buckets of butter and die at 30, or split the difference in the way they want to live.
Except it isn’t just when people are called fat that others care. If you stand outside and smoke consistently, people will tell you how bad it is for you. If you drink constantly, people will tell you it’s bad for you. The only time that someone gets mad about being told what they are doing is unhealthy is when it’s about weight. Everything is okay in moderation and that includes not being active and food but once it becomes unhealthy you have to make a change.
Incorrect. Obesity isn’t optimum health. Neither is being overweight, underweight, having poor posture, habitual stress or lack of sleep, being not obese and having a poor diet lacking proper nutrition or high in foods containing certain chemicals and so on. Very few of us our perfect Olympian’s who employee dietitians and coaches, regularly do lab work and adjust our diet and lives for “perfect health.” You can easily be spot on for BMI and have higher risk for clots, stroke, heart failure, cancer, liver failure, COPD, or many other things, you can be physically weaker and have less endurance or just generally not be as healthy as an obese person without being obese. So no- being obese isn’t “perfect health” but many people who aren’t obese aren’t very healthy either- you just can’t readily see theirs and judge them on it is all. I guess that makes them unlucky they can’t have the gift of strangers making assumptions and judging their lives and shaming them.
You’re taking the stance that just because other things are unhealthy makes obesity okay. Obesity is unhealthy. Plain and simple. Other things are unhealthy too. But don’t try to change the fact that obesity is unhealthy. We aren’t talking about borderline healthy/overweight. We are talking about obesity. That is always unhealthy.
Derp. It’s a medical fact. The only people who do not know that lots of calories and no activity equals obesity, or that obesity isn’t optimal health for a human- are either living in caves and will never see any of this, or are zealots with their fingers in their ears. So for the rest of the universe who doesn’t fall into those categories- what is the point? My point isn’t to change wether obesity is optimal or not, but you say right in your reply “because other things are unhealthy.... makes obesity ok.” Who are you to say obesity isn’t ok? That’s my whole point. You are here trying to tell an adult what to do with their body, that it isn’t “ok” for them to be unhealthy- but only if that unhealthiness is weight related do you feel a responsibility to your fellow humans to tell them what is or isn’t ok? If someone is fine possibly dying at 30 from a heart attack, or dying at 20 on a motorcycle- what’s the difference?
What is so offensive about an obese person in a bikini risking their own life or health, or “glorifying a dangerous or unhealthy lifestyle choice” versus the media and cultural infatuation with motorcycles or extreme sports? Why do people feel so strongly about this but people don’t boycott and debate when some Hollywood hunk gains an impossible amount of lean muscle mass in 6 months that medical science says a perfect human with perfect training would need 1-2 years or more to gain? Yet we celebrate their incredible transformation and watch huge dudes perform athletic feats in sports we KNOW aren’t possible naturally, and watch them die or blow out kidneys and hearts in their 40’s and that’s fine? A 25yo line backer with multiple concussions and on gear is a high paid role model on your cereal and that’s ok, but fatty has the nerve to wear a 2 piece and suddenly you must speak up for their own good and for society? Nah. That’s just plain bias, blind bias maybe, but bias.
So I get sick of it. They very likely know they are big. Even very successful big women I’ve known- in careers and dating- confident beautiful, intelligent women who embrace their bodies, many have moments of self hate or a moment where they are rattled by what others have to say to them about their bodies. So chances are she knows she is big. It’s very likely she is aware that being big causes both little daily issues and larger long term issues. If she’s on a magazine cover she likely had the money that she could more easily access resources to lose the weight. It’s her choice. We all make choices everyday, every time you eat, are active or choose not to be, park close or far, drink or not, we make these choices and they shape our lives. They are our lives- to do with as we wish. That is the line. The line where we start judging people we don’t even know for life choices that effect them and not us. What business is it of yours if she uses sunblock or gets enough vitamin C?
So let me stop you right there. I never said they weren’t completely in their right to be obese. If you wanna be obese that’s fine. But I will continually tell you’ve it is unhealthy. As I do with anything. If you’re losing or gain weight obscenely fast I will tell you it’s unhealthy. If you’re smoking, I will tel you. The issue isn’t if what you are doing is or isn’t in your own rights but if you promote it and say it’s fine. If you are obese, it is not okay. Period. It is unhealthy. However, if you want to do it, that’s your choice. But it still isn’t okay. As for the people who gain lean muscle quickly for movies and such it is unhealthy yes, but not comparatively to the other side of the spectrum. And if you get fit quickly and then keep that healthy lifestyle and keep your lean muscles then that is great. But no matter what, being obese is not okay.
In reference to the people who get lean quickly- I wasn’t merely talking about running yourself ragged in training, but specified that I was referring to the transformations that any sane and informed person knows could literally not be achieved without steroids and AAS. Secondly- it is your right to criticize or meddle in the lives of strangers, or to critique them behind their backs. That doesn’t make it any more or less “right” or “ok” than being obese, and the universal constant is that two wrongs do not make a right. We can not control other people, but if we don’t get overly philosophical on the matter- we can control ourselves. If we make a person aware, or know they are aware, the rest is their choice. We can’t live their lives for them.
As someone who used to be 180kg at 5"9 there is really nothing good or healthy about being obese and while it's ok to be chubby being clinically obese is nothing to be proud of
I have to somewhat disagree. It’s just a different method. Look at your Archie Bunkers, your John Candies, John Goodmans, Jim Belushi, Chris Farley, and their real life counter parts. Look at the old “fat cop” that was and in many places still is a staple. These guys didn’t have to advocate anything. They were big men, they knew it, most people didn’t give them much crap for it, or they embraced it and played it up. People didn’t endlessly debate that fat comedians were making kids see being fat as ok, or that fat cops were bad role models. They were just big dudes. They tended to own it, and many of them had dominant personalities and didn’t suffer abuse lightly, and made clear that it wasn’t a good idea to try it. You still see the “big tough guy” around today.
2 of the men you just mentioned died as a result of their rabidly unhealthy appetites. Carol O'Connor, who wasn't NEARLY as unhealthily obese died of Diabetes. And the other two have a history of heart problems and gout. Maybe that should be a clue right there
Please read the original post. No one is discussing wether or not it is unhealthy here, the first post in this chain is about the differences in how men and women of size publicly address the issue, not the effects of obesity. I am fully aware I chose people who died or had obesity related health problems. They were all men, public figures. The point was that as public figures they didn’t get the flack for glorifying unhealthy living that a woman does for having her picture in a magazine. That is likely why you don’t see as many male advocates. As you say THEY DIED FOR BEING FAT AND STILL DIDNT CATCH AS MUCH SHIT FOR PROMOTING UNHEALTHY LIVING AS A WOMAN FOR WEARING A BATHING SUIT IN A PICTURE.
I think the main reason is because men aren’t praised for being “big and proud”. To add a parallel, why aren’t there any fat men on magazine covers wearing bathing suits saying “I’m big and proud of it”. Men are criticized as much for it because they aren’t glorified for it either.
Exactly. She is trying to make it not only acceptable but glamorous and anyone who says otherwise is ignorant and judgmental. Those men never tried to promote or glorify being fat, it was simply who they were/are. She is actively seeking to glorify obesity. That's what we find appalling, not the concept of her in a bathing suit, its what she's trying to perpetuate.
As far as just this magazine goes- I suppose that if someone with one leg wanted to be a model they should stay out of public view, we wouldn’t want to promote being an amputee as a beauty standard would we? @Celticrose- I think I must respectfully disagree. She is a plus sized woman. She doesn’t promote obesity- in her activism she promotes the idea that people shouldn’t be stigmatized and shunned for choosing to be obese. It is theor health, theor body, their choice. Are you arguing that being socially accepting of people’s choices is the same as encouraging people to make those choices? Obesity has distinct draw backs and risks, just as riding a motorcycle or getting a body piercing, or not wearing sunscreen do. They are all choices people make about their body, and it is no more fair to say that we should shun motorcycle riders because of the higher mortality of those who choose to do so in their lives.
Many people think motorcycles are cool but don’t ride because they don’t accept the dangers or the lifestyle impact of the decision, just as someone may not like being obese, and it has risks that many do not want to deal with. Accepting the choices of others isn’t the same thing as encouraging it. Should we shun and shame and try to remove anyone we feel is making a risky choice? Who decides when society should have the right to shame you into making choices, especially when those choices are about your body? What’s so wrong about a person saying “this isn’t healthy, but I’m happy, and I want to live my life like any other human without being judged and hidden and shamed?”
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Cosmopolitan magazine used to promote unprotected sex with HIV positive partners, so that doesn't set the magazine up as "promoting healthy lifestyles".
Cosmopolitan is a fluff rag that for some people MIGHT contain some entertainment value or even snippets of useful information. One should apply critical thought to anything they read, but to not apply critical thought to Cosmopolitan is at best like reading the Onion at face value. Cosmo has every right to promote unprotected sex with HIV positive partners and it’s readers have every right to listen or not based on what they think is the best choice. You can’t gp around holding people’s genitals if they decide to risk getting HIV, and I for one wouldn’t mock, shame, or tell those with HIV to stay out of the public view or not do anything noteworthy so they don’t “make people think HIV is sexy.” I wouldn’t personally choose to have unprotected sex with an HIV positive person most likely, but that’s my choice for my life, others will do as they see fit.
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"Cosmo has every right to promote unprotected sex with HIV positive partners"
Are you out of your mind?
No. They literally have the right to do it. Do I agree? No. That’s how rights work. Especially when we do not agree or cannot relate, that is when the true measure of a right is weighed. I wouldn’t do it, I would advise anyone I know not to do it. I would hope our schools and families and friends would tell us not to. But- if after sex ed, and having the access to all the information in the world on the subject, you contemplated the issue and decided that for you and your life that was what you wanted to do- what am I going to say? You’re an adult, we discussed it, you have access to the same facts I do, and we disagree. If you don’t get HIV, there is no problem. You rolled the dice and loved the life you wanted and did ok. If you do get HIV, you took a risk knowingly, and that is the consequence. You now have HIV, and life goes on, your life by your terms with the rewards and consequences of your decisions. I didn’t get HIV- you did, that’s yours to deal with just as the choice was.
But in short- not agreeing or not supporting someone’s decisions doesn’t mean they don’t or shouldn’t have the right to make those decisions. Plenty of folks would take away the right to same sex marriage, body art and mods, junk food, any number of things. They’d say “this ain’t my way, this isn’t how I want to live or how I think the world should be. I think you are hurting yourself- or your actions harm society. I will stop you.” But it’s your choice. You can go drink beer until you die, you can marry a 14 time escaped convict, you can try to fly a home made rocket to the moon. Those are all your rights. There is a difference between spreading hate or ignorance vs acknowledging a choice is foolish, but that you want to do it. Maybe it’s dumb to turn down a scholarship to Yale so you can study tea reading in Guam- history will tell, but it's your life and your path.
@Guest_ your ideology is what many consider the downfall of society as it is. Just because someone has the right to do something doesn’t mean they should promote the social acceptance of that thing. If you choose to be fat and obese that is In your right to do so. If you choose to have sex with HIV positive people that is within your right to do so. But to promote such activities SHOULD be frowned upon. People are influenced easily and look to outlets to tell them what should be accepted and what they should look like. Whether you aren’t trying to promote it or not, placing an obese person on the cover of a magazine is glorifying it and saying it is okay to be obese and unhealthy.
Am I saying shun all the fat people. Shun all the people who don’t look a certain way, absolutely not. That’s taking it to the other side of the extreme. Don’t shun it but don’t promote it either.
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Cigarettes are harmful to health. I think we can all agree on that. In 1971 cigarette ads were banned on TV and radio. In '98 tobacco ads were banned on billboards and transit along with paid product placement.
It is not in the best interest of public health to popularize or normalize tobacco use. It's harmful enough that you don't have the right to do it anymore.
Promoting unprotected sex with HIV+ partners is harmful enough to public health that various groups came out against Cosmo.
Like shouting "Fire!" in a crowded room, you can lose the right to promote or advertise harmful and dangerous things.
@ilikemoderation- I hear you, but here’s the thing- nothing about that cover promotes obesity. It’s an obviously obese woman, she was photographed dressed up and in makeup. What are the alternatives? Specifically refuse to show obese people doing things that anyone else is free to be shown doing? Only show obese people as disgusting or degenerate? Yes, we don’t want to encourage people to do unhealthy things, and you say I go to extremes, but what is your answer then? How would you go about not promoting obesity, not making obesity socially acceptable, but not penalize or diminish them as humans, and give the obese the full enjoyment of life that anyone else had who isn’t obese? What if an obese woman wants to be a model or a newscaster? Do we forbid it until they lose weight? If we allow it- and they are successful, won’t they be on tv or in magazines? What if they are medically obese and not by lifestyle or diet, and how do we tell? Do we treat those people different than the rest?
@unklethan- The cigarette example is somewhat flawed in many regards. For starters- smoking poses direct threat to the environment as well as the health of others who choose not to smoke. Drinking might be a better parallel, but still has a high correlation to behaviors that harm others whereas obesity isn’t a leading factor in fatal car accidents or violent episodes and crime. So it’s not a fair comparison. As for shouting fire- I doubt that shouting “have unprotected sex with HIV positive people!!” Or “Eat too much!!” Would cause the same results, but that asides that fact- consider this: If a supermarket magazine tells you that Lizzard people have replaced the government should it be shut down? What about outlets with salacious and inflammatory content? Should anyone who has controversial and potentially upsetting views be silenced? Who will oversee this department of public information and make sure that no one is publishing things that could be considered against the....
.... public’s best interests? At what point does a persons decisions or opinions become such a danger that we must hide them and silence them? And if we use your cigarette example- why do so many people get upset at the obese or at the magazines? We targeted cigarette companies, so why isn’t the upset aimed at big chocolate and the cake consortiums who put this stuff on the street, who engineer products to trigger our most basic human instincts for food, and who spend so much money on strategy and marketing to make sure its easier, cheaper, and more appealing to grab a fast burger than a salad? If you shun the crack heads and ignore the dealers you’ve just created a self perpetuating string of pariahs but not stopped the problem no? I mean, before “fat culture” there were plenty of fat people- being fat isn’t a new invention. Processed cheap foods and modern life has just made being fat easier. Is that the consumer or the pusher who is promoting obesity?
Mars, Lays, Coke, multi billion dollar conglomerates who shill pure 100% junk. So you mention cigarettes but experience shows that going after the smoker has limited success. People quit when they want or because they have to, and it’s hard to force people to do things in a free country- so they went for the companies, passed laws about who and where you could buy, sell, use, advertise. That worked way better. If you inform people of possible risks and they decide to do it anyway, that’s on them. Where do you draw the line? At what point do you say that it is society or the laws responsibility to prevent people from making risky choices? Playing darts? Scuba or sky diving? Motorcycles? Body piercings? If you like the way a tongue ring looks- and are aware that it an get infected and kill you, should society shun you too for promoting a potentially deadly risk that they just like the way it looks or want it?
I’ll be 100% honest I don’t know the best alternative. I’m not perfect and don’t know the answer. But I do know that just because there isn’t an alternstive doesn’t mean we just let it happen. I think the magazine is glorifying this girl who is obese. I wouldn’t ban overweight people from doing anything. But I wouldn’t publicize a piece of media that shows obesity in a positive light. Should they be able to become a model? Sure. For clothing plus sized clothing that’s fine. Should they be on the cover of a Magazine that is obviously trying to promote body acceptance for “non-convention” body types? No. Because that normalizes unhealthy behavior.
The sentiments expressed are at least noble in intent- but contradictory in reality. We don’t want to stop overweight people from doing anything- but we also don’t want them on magazines? So what if they want to be on magazines? There’s a big hole there. It’s ok for them to model plus sized clothes, but jewelry or high fashion is not ok- because it glamorizes them. Can you see the disconnect? So if we don’t want to promote unhealthy or unconventional body types- that also means that those who are too skinny, too athletic, those with missing limbs or “deformities” should also only be shown in specialty publications and only in a context where they aren’t glamorized, but presented as cautionary tales of undesirable existence? So they should be able to choose whatever they like- as long as they choose to do it where the public can’t see?
I might point out that the idea of “let them do as they like, so long as they know it’s wrong and they keep it out of sight and it isn’t normalized or glorified in the media” is one that’s been used as a hedge for many trying to “split the middle” on issues where society wanted to discriminate and tell others how to live for a long time. Recently we have seen it with marijuana- a drug becoming increasingly decriminalized or legal- which when smoked does pose health risks, but also has benefits that some people decide are worth it to them. For a long time use was shunned, or ignored if it stayed behind closed doors. No matter what we do some people will be obese by choice or by nature. Do we include these people and treat them like anyone else, or do we make them morlocks who should live out of sight and mind for their sins against their own bodies?
"You have no science to back you up if you don't know the facts on her body". Lol, She's 5ft 3 and weight over 300lbs, BMI chart is scientific fact that she falls in to the severely obese category.
Wether it is or not, funkmasterrex has a good point. BMI and other generic tools aren’t the best tools for determine these things, and even those charts are only as accurate as the measurements. Few doctors actually even have the correct tools or know how to measure things like BF% and lean muscle mass accurately. But regardless of weight and body composition, if your blood panels look good, blood pressure, heart rate and rythym, O2 sats, endocrine panel, glucose levels and other tests look good- you’re as healthy as anyone else with those numbers. Obesity is a risk factor. It’s spurious reasoning. You can be trim and fit and get fatty liver disease or diabetes, and you can be obese and never get either. There is a correlation as well as a statistical increase in likelihood. Just as riding a motorcycle is a statistical increase in spinal breakage, but not everyone who rides, even for decades, will break their spine, and not every spinal injury is caused by riding a motorcycle.
Im 5'6" and i weigh 300 plbs. I know i am a beautiful woman but i dont feel HEALTHY. Its not about looking good its about FEELING good about yourself and being able to do stuff without getting winded or feeling drained. If the doctor tells you to lose weight for your health then listen. I take care of muself im not disgusting and my husband loves me for who i am and im proud of that. But im not proud of the struggle i have to go through being obese. Im NOT HEALTHY. Yes im trying to change that (im not asking for a pitty party.) That's why i believe she shouldnt be on the cover promoting her being overweight. It shouldnt be the new standard.
So- if you let someone, someone wonderful, someone just your type who made you feel happy just being with them- and they liked you. They instantly began to fall in love with you. They truly and deeply thought you were beautiful. They supported you in losing weight, but if you decided not to they would gently encourage you, and if you were against it they would accept you for who you are- think you were beautiful and attractive- you would tell them to get lost? You would tell them that they had no right to think you were beautiful, and that they shouldn’t make someone your weight the standard of beauty? I’m not trying to be mean, I’m just saying that some people like bigger partners for being big, and some people like being bigger. Some people don’t specific like bigger people, but can see the beauty in them. So... if some people like big people, and some people like being big, but media shouldn’t “make that the standard” should we as a society ignore that?
Should the message be: “lose weight so we can consider you a person?” Or “until you lose weight no one should find you beautiful, otherwise they are hurting society?” Or should we just tell anyone who is heavier that no one with a healthy mind can love them in a sexual way, the only love for them is a meeting of the minds, because we can’t allow the admiration of heavy people or we might encourage such unhealthy behavior? Do we shuffle all the larger people away from the public eye, pretend they don’t exist like Morlocks or some plague to be ignored until it works itself out? And what if those people who just don’t care to be healthy? Should we shun them, consider them mentally unsound because they obviously are self destructive? Encouraging unhealthy habits isn’t ideal, but it’s a slippery slope to excluding and dehumanizing people while they make changes, or who just don’t want to regardless of the known risks. They are adults. They can choose to take risks with their bodies.
They took a risk and they're suffering for it. Nobody's saying that we need to burn fat people at the stake, because that would lead to millions dying. You're taking this too far, Guest. People who are fat and proud don't need to flaunt it like it's some reward, because it's not and society is telling them that. It's saying your fan of a band and you wear it on your sleeve, but you won't shut up about it. People will be like "okay that's cool" to "that really gets you going" to "Don't talk to him, <certain band> is all he talks about", when you're just really passionate about your band. Enjoying something about yourself isn't bad, just like being fat isn't the worst thing on the planet, but if that's all you are, all that you show to the world, but then complain that you're a person too and people only see the fatness but only show the fatness, then you're part of the problem with fat acceptance. No one is saying that fat people need to burn, we're just saying that fat people need to
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find a damn hobby, otherwise not a lot of people will care. Ever heard of the obese funny guy? People like him(or her, don't forget your Fat Amys) because he isn't about his fatness, but works with it.
She isn’t “flaunting” her weight or her status her. The woman in the picture isn’t flaunting it, and the woman who posted that is obviously a poor communicator or not very bright. The whole thing is rather generous if you stop and think about it. If you’re in better shape than the woman in the picture- but she’s obviously enjoying her life, why would you take the time to try and negatively speculate on her? If you’re smarter, or a better communicator than the woman who made the comment, why would you bother replying to her at all unless you were trying to be constructive? It all comes from a very nasty place, and society said it elwasnt ok to make fun of overweight people or pick on them and so now to get their jollies people use the health angle as a way to pick at the overweight while making about “their own good” or about “societies own good.” An invitation to be an ass while looking like a hero, and people answer the call in droves.
Because no one takes the time to pick trough photos and point out which celebrities aren’t wearing sunscreen do they? When we see a fit and smiling Model in their bathing suit no one says: “They’re risking melanoma! They’re a role model and they’re making not wearing sunscreen the standard!” We don’t talk nearly as much about the steroid epidemic and how male leads from teens to 80’s are often shown as unreasonably muscles and the body image and pressure that puts on young men do we? Because it isn’t about thier health. They’re adults. You’re an adult. This thread makes it obvious people are aware obesity has negative risks just as piercings or many things do- but it’s a choice and a right of an adult to do as they like with their body, and here so many sit and judge others yet I ask- who here is the paragon of clean healthy living and optimum health?
So is Ryan Reynolds, or any number of men and women on magazines. The “shredded” super low body fat look that we hold as a sign of health and appeal is no more healthy, and in fact will likely kill one faster than being obese, and yet the vast public discussion is on “fat” people promoting unhealthy living as beauty? Why do you think that is? Why is it a badge of honor to cross to the point you amaze your liver, but a huge shame to be big? Lastly- what does health have to do with beauty? Are piercings healthy? Pretty much anytime you put a hole in your body that it didn’t come with that is a health risk. Are tattoos healthy? Do they improve your physical health at all? But they also carry risks no? So we can easily see health and beauty aren’t synonymous, and when it comes to promoting unhealthiness- what makes it more importantant to tell people it isn’t ok to be fat than to tell people it isn’t ok to be super buff, or train in endurance athletics, or any number of common things?
Having low body fat but high muscle is far healthier than being obese. The muscles act as an energy source instead of fat. It will not kill you faster. It will not even kill you to bed physically “shredded” because the muscles are a source of energy. You are spreading completely false information.
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Because telling people to do some excercise will not lead them to become 0% body stone chisled gods, and will most likely lead to who are going to enjoy living to a moderate age.
Health and beauty are intertwined. If someone who is thin, and looks good is more likely to be chased by men than the Amy Schumer types. Thats not to put in play other factors such as personality or availbility.
And while piercings and tattoos are certainly not the best thing for you, most people who do are moderate about it, and I havent seen a movement for inked acceptance or inkshamers. It simply wouldnt make sense to compare the fat acceptance movement to somehing that is accepted in our society.
I normally hate PM, but he hit the nail on the head with his commentary on her
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6190487/amp/PIERS-MORGAN-Stop-lying-Tess-youre-morbidly-obese-going-kill-you.html
But she IS.. Obese...
Never saw a very Fat guy defending all these things..
Are you out of your mind?
It is not in the best interest of public health to popularize or normalize tobacco use. It's harmful enough that you don't have the right to do it anymore.
Promoting unprotected sex with HIV+ partners is harmful enough to public health that various groups came out against Cosmo.
Like shouting "Fire!" in a crowded room, you can lose the right to promote or advertise harmful and dangerous things.
Health and beauty are intertwined. If someone who is thin, and looks good is more likely to be chased by men than the Amy Schumer types. Thats not to put in play other factors such as personality or availbility.
And while piercings and tattoos are certainly not the best thing for you, most people who do are moderate about it, and I havent seen a movement for inked acceptance or inkshamers. It simply wouldnt make sense to compare the fat acceptance movement to somehing that is accepted in our society.