we should perhaps start by setting a maximum age for voting. old people who are going to die tomorrow deciding what's gonna happen in 20 years isn't exactly the epitome of fairness... maybe the vote should count less the older you are. like .. 25 % if you're 101 and have alzheimers. 100% if you're 20, etc ...
I’m not gonna give the government the power to decide how much of a say I have. As soon as you grant them that power they can easily abuse it. 1 person should equal 1 vote. If you can’t even drink til you’re 21 why would they let you vote at 16. I honestly think it should be 21 to vote because most 18 year olds are nowhere near mature.
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I still think it's borderline insanity that you can sign up to go to war for the US Armed Forces before you're legally old enough to drink a beer.
He's right tho. As much as I agree that the US voting system is fucked up, its a bit harder than just one citizen one vote. Because then the rural population would get very very under represented. And so their problems would go unheard. And thats no bueno.
When seven states control the union, forty-three will go their own way.
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I would like to see more young people in politics, though.
Seems unfair that the only people allowed to represent people like me in my 20s are a bunch of 40 and 50 year olds with vastly different life experiences.
I know part of that is young people just not going for it, but at the same time isn't the minimum age for the presidency still 35 for some reason? Like I could understand requiring them to have actually lived here for 15 years but needing then to have been born here and be at least 35?
Some of that would be solved if we had term limits on Congress and the Senate. The Presidency already has a two term limit and I see no reason why it shouldn't also be applied to the others. This would cut out a lot of the old boys club we have going on right now.
35, if anything, is too young. And YES, they should be born here. Dafuq?
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@funkmasterrex I think we're severely limiting the contributions that people from other backgrounds can provide by not at least giving them an opportunity to run. Ditto by not letting younger people run if for no other reason than to voice their concerns at debates.
Like I said, I agree with the 15 year thing because I feel like that's a healthy amount of time to become acquainted with the country and hammer out your views on it. I just don't see why a 26 year old or an Asian immigrant who's lived in America most of his life can't also run for office
That's a great idea! Let's lower the age of enlistment to 14, and the age of consent should be lowered to 12 while we're at it.
What could possibly be wrong with any of this?
Hell, just let illegals vote too, and allow professed Nazis and communists into the Pentagon. Why not?
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Slippery slope is quite a fallacy. I agree that 16 is too young.
Weren't we over this a couple posts ago? I'm gonna go on a limb and guess that a bot posted this, but yeah, lowering the voting age is bullshit, for reasons of being readily exploitable by the left-wing. Which is even less surprising when you see who's offering this in the first place.
I think you should pass a sort of day-long exam to determine wether or not you're genuinely interested in politics and educated on the matter. It's not an age problem at this point.
What a way to simultaneously screw working people out of voting while also giving the powers that be a way to ensure only their supporters have a voice.
Well maybe exam was a poor choice of words. There wouldn't be right/wrong answers, only "invested : yes/no, informed yes/no willing to take it serously yes/no", and the day would be used to make them open-minded towards politics.
In my country we already have something like this implemented to make you conscious of your responsibilities as a citizen and learn first-aid movements when you're 16. That would be that, but extended.
If you impose any kind of test on voting rights, it will be immediately be abused by the GOP. That's their M.O. Gerrymandering? Voter suppression? That's the GOP.
There was once an idea of a moral and conservative party, and a lot of voters yearn for that party, but that party ain't the GOP and hasn't been since "Citizens United". After that decision, all bets were off and the entire party was bought. Don't get me wrong, 90% of the democratic party was also bought.
But yeah, it's bullshit.
Seems unfair that the only people allowed to represent people like me in my 20s are a bunch of 40 and 50 year olds with vastly different life experiences.
I know part of that is young people just not going for it, but at the same time isn't the minimum age for the presidency still 35 for some reason? Like I could understand requiring them to have actually lived here for 15 years but needing then to have been born here and be at least 35?
Like I said, I agree with the 15 year thing because I feel like that's a healthy amount of time to become acquainted with the country and hammer out your views on it. I just don't see why a 26 year old or an Asian immigrant who's lived in America most of his life can't also run for office
What could possibly be wrong with any of this?
Hell, just let illegals vote too, and allow professed Nazis and communists into the Pentagon. Why not?
In my country we already have something like this implemented to make you conscious of your responsibilities as a citizen and learn first-aid movements when you're 16. That would be that, but extended.
There was once an idea of a moral and conservative party, and a lot of voters yearn for that party, but that party ain't the GOP and hasn't been since "Citizens United". After that decision, all bets were off and the entire party was bought. Don't get me wrong, 90% of the democratic party was also bought.