He may have been. He's saying it's still worth it to put an effort in, even when you're at your lowest and don't feel like you can. NOT doing these things will only make everything worse, and losing yourself that much easier. Maybe they won't work - but if they don't, at least you fought tooth and nail for your own life. You didn't instantly write yourself off. You didn't immediately reach for pills, or the razorblades, or a gun. Depression is a battle CONSTANTLY, and he's saying don't rush into it without at least trying to arm yourself first.
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And you surround yourself with support so that, if you DO reach that darkest of places, hopefully someone will be there to get you the help that you need to make it through even one more day.
My point is that you can be so depressed that you are incapable of doing any of those things, and I'm speaking from experience. You can enter a state of depression where you are not merely being recalcitrant; you are literally incapable of doing even minor things required to take care of yourself. You don't have to be suicidal to be hospitalized, reaching for the pills or the razorblades. You can find yourself incapable of taking yourself off the floor, and I mean completely incapable. Depressed to the point that you simply aren't capable of doing anything.
I think I get both your points. I get Nic’s view on how things can get so tough that you can barely get out of bed, want to vomit at the thought of food, think you’ll just bother your support even when you’ve specifically set up sos sources who know what you go through. But I also get xvarnahs where initially when I started battling depression I didn’t know what was happening so I didn’t do much I just got angry and confused and put myself through hell. So now that I know what’s going on I try to not let myself slip by trying to take better care of myself so as to minimize its effects as much as I possibly can before it gets to the bad point.
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But then again once in a while it will/might always get to that place where you just “can’t even” haha. I’m lucky I have people I talk to everyday so that if I wasn’t around they know something is wrong and they help me. I know it’s horrible as absolute hell when you have no one to talk to and you can’t get yourself to function.
I'm not denying Nic's opinion or experiences. I was just elaborating on my interpretation of what Jim said.
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If it were an easy thing to get out of your own head we'd never have to worry about suicide at all. Depression can often be a problem on a biological and chemical level where your brain simply can't or won't sort out the imbalance it's experiencing, and sadly the symptoms of this can often be crippling, even to the point that, much like some cases of schizophrenia, people end up catatonic.
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The hope is that people possibly learn to try doing these things before it gets that bad. And try them once they've started to recover as well.
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It's not undermining or preaching. It's just "don't give up on yourself." "These things might help." "It's worth it to try." Do your best because you're worth fighting for
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As they say... when you can't walk, you crawl, and when you can't do that...
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I get it but it’s hard to get it all done in most living situations, one of the major signs of depression is that you can’t get it done even if you have time. Even if I can’t “give myself a fighting chance” my depression is still a problem and I need support. Even if that support is just someone listening to my petty complaining. It’s not like depressed people don’t want to- and work to get better.
C O N S U M E P O S I T I V E M A T E R I A L
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And you surround yourself with support so that, if you DO reach that darkest of places, hopefully someone will be there to get you the help that you need to make it through even one more day.
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But then again once in a while it will/might always get to that place where you just “can’t even” haha. I’m lucky I have people I talk to everyday so that if I wasn’t around they know something is wrong and they help me. I know it’s horrible as absolute hell when you have no one to talk to and you can’t get yourself to function.
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If it were an easy thing to get out of your own head we'd never have to worry about suicide at all. Depression can often be a problem on a biological and chemical level where your brain simply can't or won't sort out the imbalance it's experiencing, and sadly the symptoms of this can often be crippling, even to the point that, much like some cases of schizophrenia, people end up catatonic.
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The hope is that people possibly learn to try doing these things before it gets that bad. And try them once they've started to recover as well.
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It's not undermining or preaching. It's just "don't give up on yourself." "These things might help." "It's worth it to try." Do your best because you're worth fighting for
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As they say... when you can't walk, you crawl, and when you can't do that...