The rioters have killed more people than the police, and the vast majority of police killings were justified, lawful, and necessary for the safety of officers and the community.
I’m not sticking up for rioters.
There are likely plenty of times where police were in a situation that justified, warranted and even required killing.
That’s not the issue. The issue is, no one should ever be murdered in their bed because the police got the wrong house. No one should ever be murdered in the street after submitting to officer subduing/beating them. No one should be murdered for calmly informing the officer they have a gun in the vehicle (isn’t that standard protocol when you have a concealed carry?).
I’m not in the defund-the-police crowd. If anything, I think they need more funding. But people who aren’t committing crimes shouldn’t have to fear officers. And for many, that fear is real and justified.
I wonder if you would feel differently if one of these meaningless lives that were taken, was someone close to you? If the police burst into your house because they got the wrong address and shot/killed your spouse or loved one? Police are people just like the rest of us. They make mistakes and those mistakes can cost lives. We just need to reduce that cost.
The overwhelming majority of killings by police officers have been lawful and justified.
I do believe no-knock warrants need to put under much higher scrutiny.
I do believe that in many cases there is no reason for a suspect to die in custody or after detained.
But officers are human. You can ask for perfection, but you will never get it and should not expect it.
We are near the sweet spot of minimal unnecessary and unjust deaths while maintaining liberty and officer safety, to the point where people unjustly killed by officers is a statistical anomaly.
I have had friends and family on both sides of the law. Some of both were damaged or killed for it.
But the measures being demanded, the changes being advocated, are largely counter to all of that, or are entirely unfeasible. Especially on a national level.
Look at things at the lowest level. Address the issues as locally as possible.
I started typing this before anyone else had replied to famousone but only submitted it now. So the context of this has nothing to do with any of the other replies
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People really really can't stand it when you point out that sometimes, SOMETIMES, when someone dies at the hands of the police, it is justified. No matter the color of that person's skin.
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What happened to George Floyd was barbaric. But sometimes - even in some of the BLM cases - the cops are genuinely acting in self-defense, or following protocol, and it's very easy to see it.
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There are likely plenty of times where police were in a situation that justified, warranted and even required killing.
That’s not the issue. The issue is, no one should ever be murdered in their bed because the police got the wrong house. No one should ever be murdered in the street after submitting to officer subduing/beating them. No one should be murdered for calmly informing the officer they have a gun in the vehicle (isn’t that standard protocol when you have a concealed carry?).
I’m not in the defund-the-police crowd. If anything, I think they need more funding. But people who aren’t committing crimes shouldn’t have to fear officers. And for many, that fear is real and justified.
I do believe no-knock warrants need to put under much higher scrutiny.
I do believe that in many cases there is no reason for a suspect to die in custody or after detained.
But officers are human. You can ask for perfection, but you will never get it and should not expect it.
We are near the sweet spot of minimal unnecessary and unjust deaths while maintaining liberty and officer safety, to the point where people unjustly killed by officers is a statistical anomaly.
I have had friends and family on both sides of the law. Some of both were damaged or killed for it.
But the measures being demanded, the changes being advocated, are largely counter to all of that, or are entirely unfeasible. Especially on a national level.
Look at things at the lowest level. Address the issues as locally as possible.
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People really really can't stand it when you point out that sometimes, SOMETIMES, when someone dies at the hands of the police, it is justified. No matter the color of that person's skin.
.
What happened to George Floyd was barbaric. But sometimes - even in some of the BLM cases - the cops are genuinely acting in self-defense, or following protocol, and it's very easy to see it.