That’s the president. And that is a real quote from him- during a pandemic. Not a reality star or a cereal mascot where one might say “well if you listen to the stupid things this person says- that’s on you...” That is quite literally the opposite of how a national leader is supposed to be. You don’t have to be a math whiz to know that when over 7% of cases are children- children are nowhere near “almost immune.”
Now let’s be fair. Some people will say: “No! He obviously was referring to how children don’t seem to be effected as severely when they do get the disease!” Well... that’s not what he said is it? Not a big deal? Try this one on for size- what’s the difference if a President right now were to say: “If people are upset about police use of force they need to get out, form organized protests, and use legal and peaceful means to be heard in the system...” or “If your upset, raise hell. Riot. Get noticed and make them change the system...” we could say that “riot” there OBVIOUSLY doesn’t mean to riot- it just was a poor choice of words... but come on. That’s why we have words. That’s why presidents have fact checkers and speech writers and whole staffs to help them use the right words at the right time.
You’re kids... are essentially immune to Covid. Ladies and gentlemen, the president of the United States. I don’t care if you lean left or right or whatever- can we all just agree that this next round we might consider electing a person who seems capable of the job and not just whoever makes us nod the most or the voting equivalent of dating someone just because you know they’ll piss off the room mate you don’t like? You deserve better. Even if you don’t- most of us deserve better. If you want to live under a lunatic, move the southern states and elect a crazy governor as they like to do. You can have a little kingdom of like minded folks and no one is going to bother you in Arizona or Texas or whatever.
Good point, let's wrap kids in plastic bubbles and ban everything from corners and drops over 1.5 feet to speed over 7 mph. Swimming pools gotta go, pollen too, peanuts, and cats and dogs. Why didn't we do this every flu season?
The mortality rate of Covid in children so far is believed to be less than 1%. If you believe statistics, famousone is fond of questioning the Covid statistics as alluded to in his post in this thread-but so far seemingly only the ones that say the virus is dangerous and not the ones that say it is not dangerous.
But as I’ve mentioned before- a percent rate of fatality is a bit simplistic to use for a contagious pandemic- since a small percent of a big ass number is still a big ass number. It also doesn’t really work to say: “see? ‘Only’ so many people have died...” well... yes. We’ve had world wide quarantines and shit downs of schools and such- which have very likely- almost 100% likely- helped slow the spread of the virus and thus lower the number f infections and thusly- lower how many people have died from the virus.
Sort of like- how many people are killed by self immolation every year? Well- “too many” but a relatively small number. Because people are well aware Fire is dangerous and lighting yourself on fire isn’t wise for your health. If we were telling people for centuries that you were probably almost completely immune to fire- we could surmise those numbers may be a little higher no? That’s obviously an exaggeration- but it illustrates the point. If a major thing keeping the number of deaths down is that people are cognizant of the risk- telling them there is effectively no risk- which science and data would say- yes. Yes there is- that’s not just irresponsible, it’s dumb.
Hell, we lost 15,000 people from HIV in 2019. Ask. Ask how many are kids? Why thanks for asking. Less that 150. WOW. HIV is less deadly than Covid. Why do we make such a big deal about HIV? Kids are practically immune to HIV- let’s get the president to broadcast that no? That sounds like a message that should be put forth by the commander and chief in the interest of the nation. Do you even know anyone with HIV? Anyone who’s died from it? And how do we know that the stats are right? They often record people who die from other causes as HIV or AIDS deaths no?
But here’s an important question- why do we have to boil it down to deaths? As stated earlier- AIDS and HIV aren’t really prolific killers in 2020. Syphilis hardly kills anyone. And here I am get polio vaccines- any idea what the death count is on polio deaths in America? Even without the vaccine if you’re infected there are treatments. But wait... diseases and sickness often have lingering effects or future health impacts. Studies have found possible links between Covid and long term harm, even brain damage.
If you eat lead paint or are exposed to radiation and don’t die right away... if you are diagnosed with polio or syphilis or HIV and don’t die right away.... that’s probably the end though right? You didn’t die in the first 12 months so you’re likely fine with no impact from it....?
Or.... not. But even if we were talking about the garden variety flu everyone likes to bring up... you wouldn’t see a problem with a sorting President addressing the nation in the midst of a record breaking flu pandemic with record deaths saying: “your kids are basically immune to the flu...”?
Or.... not. But even if we were talking about the garden variety flu everyone likes to bring up... you wouldn’t see a problem with a siting President addressing the nation in the midst of a record breaking flu pandemic with record deaths saying: “your kids are basically immune to the flu...”?
That Axios interview was actually kind of terrifying to watch, seeing the level of incompetency. The interviewer was absolutely phenomenal though, in my opinion
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My nephew who is 9 months old has it, hasn't died, but has it. Where I live there has been 3 deaths, the youngest being 9. In Georgia a 7 year old boy just passed away from it. Also in Georgia 150 kids, over half of the kids who went to a summer camp all tested positive for covid because they decided they didn't want to make the kids wear masks or social distance. In Oklahoma 3 kids contracted it and 2 of them passed away, 11 days apart.
I hate to tell ya this, but those numbers don't mean much. Yeah, Covid is spreading fast. Chances are, it's already been ripping through since late last year, but the vast majority of cases have been asymptomatic or minor, mistaken for other minor illnesses, and even the fatality count is undeniably inflated.
People get sick sometimes. Sometimes they don't pull through. Covid ain't particularly harsh or dangerous, though. It's sensationalism and fear mongering. In many ways doing far worse harm than the virus could ever approach.
The numbers don’t mean much- the only number that means much is 1. When that 1, is someone you care about who could have been spared. Now multiply that 1 times the number of people who are effected by that one persons death or suffering. Now- factor in that these current numbers are with many VAST populations being under voluntary or mandatory shelter in place, travel restrictions, and other precautions.
If only “x people a year” die from car crashes- that isn’t an argument against air bags and seat belts. If anything that is an argument for their continued use and advancement no? I can’t see looking at that data and declaring the death toll is too low, we need to scale back these safety nets...
Also, just because most people infected with the disease don’t die, and because many people have mild to moderate symptoms, doesn’t mean that it isn’t particularly bad.
There are cases now where people have made full recovery and then suffered severe side effects. There are numerous cases where people are suffering lingering symptoms for months (and we don’t know if those will be permanent). People suffering organ failures... children suffering organ failures.
And most importantly, some of the people who are having only mild symptoms are suffering long term neurological effects. These are people who didn’t even realize they had the disease until they sought treatment for the neurological disfunction they were experiencing.
My nephew who is 9 months old has it, hasn't died, but has it. Where I live there has been 3 deaths, the youngest being 9. In Georgia a 7 year old boy just passed away from it. Also in Georgia 150 kids, over half of the kids who went to a summer camp all tested positive for covid because they decided they didn't want to make the kids wear masks or social distance. In Oklahoma 3 kids contracted it and 2 of them passed away, 11 days apart.
People get sick sometimes. Sometimes they don't pull through. Covid ain't particularly harsh or dangerous, though. It's sensationalism and fear mongering. In many ways doing far worse harm than the virus could ever approach.
There are cases now where people have made full recovery and then suffered severe side effects. There are numerous cases where people are suffering lingering symptoms for months (and we don’t know if those will be permanent). People suffering organ failures... children suffering organ failures.
And most importantly, some of the people who are having only mild symptoms are suffering long term neurological effects. These are people who didn’t even realize they had the disease until they sought treatment for the neurological disfunction they were experiencing.