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xlaxxine
· 4 years ago
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Yea well i better get my elder scrolls: Halo
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risingflames
· 4 years ago
I want DOOM eternal: ODST
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risingflames
· 4 years ago
Now they’ll make it optimised for Xbox and other consoles, port those console versions to pc, and let the bugs and poor optimisation stay as is
guest_
· 4 years ago
A personal pet peeve of mine in current tech trends is the “end customer BETA.” Everything from cars to smart doorbells to games and so on is pushed through dev with unit and automated tests and MAYBE some old fashioned QA for a short period and often by underpaid and under qualified testers. Then they shoot it to production and use the launch to “iterate” aka- find and fix bugs that shouldn’t be in a finished product. It speeds up release cycles and cuts costs tremendously- and in fairness a game you can spend 100 hours or more to complete- you’re looking at many thousands of hours of old fashioned QA work- a complex program can take longer to test than to make, and each “fix” can bring new bugs so you need to regression test what was already tested. It’s a vicious cycle to make “perfect programs” and then they’ll still have bugs.
tarotnathers13th
· 4 years ago
Well, the customer wants it sooner rather than later, and better to let them complain about what they've purchased than complain about what they haven't purchased. I don't like it either, but getting it into a sellable state is the target rather than a complete state.
guest_
· 4 years ago
Very true. Somewhat sad- but there certainly had to be a balance. Skyrim took 6 years to release, and there are still bugs and patches with many thousands of players and millions on millions combined play hours. You cant squash all the bugs in a complex large program. People die and or millions and years of work are lost when something goes wrong with a space launch- and even those have bugs. Sometimes critical ones. You get in to “Duke Nukem” territory- where by the time you could launch a game like Fallout or GTA- the technology and mechanics of games would have left a “cutting edge” title behind. Then you have to modernize and the cycle of finding and fixing new issues that brings starts anew.
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guest_
· 4 years ago
People buy unfinished and bugged games- so they’ll sell them. If you don’t buy them, they won’t. That’s got truth to it- but there should be a certain burden to meet on getting a game to production in a playable state and with promised core features certainly. I’m fine with games like No man’s sky that have tremendous support and development years after release. Of course- not all devs bother to ever continue to support and improve product after its hit the shelf, at least in any meaningful way. But I’d rather play No Mans Sky today or a year ago as is than wait another 5 years for the same game with more stuff.
guest_
· 4 years ago
So basically what I am saying is that there are pros and cons to a developer being forced to release games under certain conditions. AND- something to consider is the “Android” effect. With options and mods and plug ins and many of the things gamers like about a lot of modern games like Elderscrolls etc- you open the door to all manner of bugs a developer could never predict and can only prevent by eliminating the ability of a user base to create or modify or have options beyond a limited and verified set.
guest_
· 4 years ago
It’s enough to have to deal with making a smooth running and playable game across several different console sets of hardware- each possibly with tiers of performance- but when you start including modded consoles and the near infinite combinations of software, firmware, hard ware; specs and configs and process stacks across PC’s.... oh man.
guest_
· 4 years ago
You can’t test for bugs on THEIR machine unless you have a near exact copy of THEIR machine. Hardware and software- an identical harddrive and use case. You can test for the “most common” combinations of these things to some extent- but even that is a task.
nordicurse
· 4 years ago
Nah, it just means you can't buy a laptop without Fallout 76
nordicurse
· 4 years ago
Nah, it just means you can't buy a laptop without Fallout 76
