"so, more than two sexes factually exist..."
"You want to destroy society"
Just so we're clear, no one here has said all society should be restructured or destructions should occur. Maybe some radical activists do this, because no matter the topic you'll always find people prone to aggression, but that's not the topic here. We're just courteously mentioning some facts.
An immaterial distinction in the face of a society upended, billions in damage, hundreds of deaths, and countless lives destroyed.
Nevermind the social damage being done to families and children just trying to exist.
The point of the discussion was how many genders exist. Unless you have counterarguments, we can agree it's more than two?
What you're mentioning are destructions that come from unacceptance and tribalism on both parts, more than said number of genders.
And of course they're not acceptable, but it goes both ways. Why try to pretend a part of the population doesn't exist? It's small, but it's there. The damage done to people who experience dysphoria (reaching murder sometimes) is not acceptable either.
No but once again I agree with that
And once again the point of this thread was that there are more than two genders
And once again no one said it justified creating problems
Let's just accept it and move on.
Then how do you account for people who bear both male and female characteristics? Even if they're outliers, they exist.
And do you have arguments for what you're saying?
Easy answer. I don't. I don't treat people according to a label, I don't make up new labels for different brands of bull, and I don't think about the issue until it comes up, in which case I act however the situation calls.
Maybe I was more charitable once upon a time, but I'm done. I'm done being browbeat, and I'm done ignoring the damage done by identity politics and "intersectional" wastes of time and breath.
People are people. There's the standard deviations that 99.999 fall into, and then the rest is addressed as needed and then promptly moved on from, and likely dismissed from my consciousness.
That's pretty convenient, ignoring what you don't want to see. For the record I also treat people like people, especially since I don't think gender is relevant in itself, yet one can think about it. And no matter how you look at it, the people you're chosing to ignore exist.
I'm afraid you can put your chips back on the shelf, since apparently we agree that gender means nothing. We also agree on the damage caused by destructions. We don't agree on the fact that studies have redeemed dysphoria to exist and ignoring it breaks lives, and I'm not going to pretend people do 't exist. You don't seem to get the difference between saying people exist and advocating for destructions or saying everyone is trans. This thread isn't very meaningful, it you'd like I could link some studies that examine this issue, I'm pretty sure karlboll has some accounts of people who've been broken by this, but as long as you continue to choose to ignore people I don't see the point of talking about this.
Dysphoria does exist. It's a mental illness.
You're looking at the lives destroyed by ignoring it? I guess that means that those being hurt by this recent and hamfisted dive into identity politics can just get fucked then.
Drag queens in classrooms, children being taught to idolize people who want to be mutilated, and fathers being arrested for referring to their daughter as such.
Up is down.
Of all people, I get wanting to help people. But your societal changes for an individual problem is only hurting more people, and feeding into the death of true liberalism by identity politics and needless division.
It seems you have trouble distinguishing between "sex" and "gender". Perhaps I can help.
"You want to destroy society"
Just so we're clear, no one here has said all society should be restructured or destructions should occur. Maybe some radical activists do this, because no matter the topic you'll always find people prone to aggression, but that's not the topic here. We're just courteously mentioning some facts.
Nevermind the social damage being done to families and children just trying to exist.
What you're mentioning are destructions that come from unacceptance and tribalism on both parts, more than said number of genders.
And of course they're not acceptable, but it goes both ways. Why try to pretend a part of the population doesn't exist? It's small, but it's there. The damage done to people who experience dysphoria (reaching murder sometimes) is not acceptable either.
And once again the point of this thread was that there are more than two genders
And once again no one said it justified creating problems
Let's just accept it and move on.
Pretending otherwise hasn't helped anyone, and it won't.
And do you have arguments for what you're saying?
Maybe I was more charitable once upon a time, but I'm done. I'm done being browbeat, and I'm done ignoring the damage done by identity politics and "intersectional" wastes of time and breath.
I'm afraid you can put your chips back on the shelf, since apparently we agree that gender means nothing. We also agree on the damage caused by destructions. We don't agree on the fact that studies have redeemed dysphoria to exist and ignoring it breaks lives, and I'm not going to pretend people do 't exist. You don't seem to get the difference between saying people exist and advocating for destructions or saying everyone is trans. This thread isn't very meaningful, it you'd like I could link some studies that examine this issue, I'm pretty sure karlboll has some accounts of people who've been broken by this, but as long as you continue to choose to ignore people I don't see the point of talking about this.
You're looking at the lives destroyed by ignoring it? I guess that means that those being hurt by this recent and hamfisted dive into identity politics can just get fucked then.
Drag queens in classrooms, children being taught to idolize people who want to be mutilated, and fathers being arrested for referring to their daughter as such.
Up is down.