I mean, a lot of what australia is doing certainly has the feel of a clown town these days, but I didn't realize it identified as a Ronald McDonald House specifically?
All I know is that I'm going to war if anybody tries to replicate the fascist takeover of Australia in my state or country.
And I am deeply sickened that it is even a possibility.
not that it's an assumption it's in Australia, but that it would, like most other businesses, require vaccination to enter or stay. So why it a surprise they kicked out when it would have been a requirement to be there in the first place?
I don't know where you're getting that from? it doesn't say it was a requirement to enter or stay at the facility?
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This particular family's kid is 5. Another family impacted has a 4 year old. I presume other impacted residents are probably older than 3 and have likely been there for years (though I could be wrong). But We're ONLY in year 2 or 3-to slow-the-spread. The vaccines weren't available for a large portion of that, and vaccine mandates weren't enacted everywhere immediately.
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Everyone seems to be saying this is a brand spanking new policy for RMH - presumably because, until fairly recently, they couldn't force experimental drugs on children under 12, so banning unvaccinated children and their families would have literally empties most of the rmh residents
Idk what to tell you, mate.
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Either RMH is doing the strangest gaslighting in history to cover up for secretly violating a policy by allowing a multitude of unvaccinated adults to stay their facility (in a province where other vaccinated adults would readily snitch on the unvaccinated to head office and get them all thrown out no less)...
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....or this wasn't a mandatory policy when these adults were permitted to stay here with their children, and is, as RMH states, a NEW policy they're implementing now.
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Now, people call the unvaccinated the wild conspiracy theorists, but in this instance my vote is with occhams's razor.
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Which I probably didn't spell correctly but alas I don't care enough to Google it
i just know that most places, even countries, don't allow entry unless fully vaccinated, exceptions if they have legitimate reason not to be vaccinated. take Novak Djokovic for instance, not vaccinated, came into Australia to play tennis, lied, deported.
And we all know that it's baseless and immoral. A two-tiered system based on the debunked ideas that covid is so terrible and can be controlled by regular gene therapy or so many boosters that mathematically do nothing to control or slow the spread, or even protect anyone.
But go ahead, enjoy your apartheid, concentration camps, military dictatorship, the cessation of all rights to all people. And understand that better people would have started shooting a long time ago.
RMH isn't a business. It's a NPO for sick kids and parents who need help. If a kid has cancer and is shut out because of a nasty flu that had a run time of two weeks then something absolutely disgusting is happening.
To recap:
-if you possess a firearm you should anticipate you will be shooting people and should probably preemptively plea to pre-meditated murder when you leave your house
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-if you are given aid by a charity for extremely sick children, you should anticipate that they will evict you at a moment's notice because unvaccinated people aren't allowed in Australia and some other places of business...?
whether it's baseless or immoral isn't the point, it's their current rules for admission.
To recap, if you're bringing a firearem into a violent situation, no, there's little to no chance anyone will get shot, how could that even happen?
That it's baseless and immoral is entirely the point. And it wasn't the rules for admission, they're changing it arbitrarily. Making a demand that is likely to do even more harm to vulnerable families, especially the afflicted children.
And to recap: If you don't want to be shot, don't attack people.
so if new rules are brought in, regardless on what it's for, you don't have to follow them because they are new? how do they bring in new laws if no one will follow because they are new?
1. There's often grandfathered exceptions. There's still restaurants that you can smoke in because they existed before the no-smoking policies were implemented.
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2. If the law violates human rights you're neither supposed to bring them, nor follow them. If tomorrow the Canadian government legislates that all babies be tested for autism and, if found to have it, all medical facilities be required to abort said babies.... You just... don't do that. And pregnant women already in those facilities absolutely should be shocked and horrified if any medical staff attempt to implement that practice
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3. as far as I know evicting the unvaccinated is not actually a law. And it wasn't a rule when they let them stay there.
"whether it's baseless or immoral isn't the point, it's their current rules for admission."
Well, I see why Australia is as screwed as possible. Its citizens thinks that rules are rules regardless of morality. That's not terrifying at all and doesn't make me question your critical thinking at all. Morality is always part of the conversation unless you live somewhere with no human rights anyways.
sp because you dpn't agree with their rules, you won't follow them? that's it?
Many follow the rules and have no problem with it, some don't and have a good cry over it. I'm all for those that don't want to be vaccinated, they just have to accept the consequences, such as, not being allowed into certain areas, businesses or even countries. Airlines require proof of vaccination before checking in when flying international, so why would it be a surprise when an unvaccinated is denied?
False. They've updated their policy requiring vaccinations after the 17'th of January, with an extension until the 31'st. They've not evicted anyone nor have they stated that they will. The guy in the picture is an anti-vaxxer who's raging online about the "vaccine cult".
Citation about the last part needed?
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because, unless I missed something (and very possible I did), the video clip of him talking to the Ronald McDonald House lady had her seemingly confirming they were going to evict families who were unvaccinated
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Ronald McDonald House seems to have backed down or clarified - but this was AFTER backlash
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And if they are not "evicting" the unvaccinated then I'm insanely curious how they intend to enforce the mandate that everyone there must be vaccinated
"The letter did not mention what would happen to those who are not fully vaccinated by Jan. 31. However, in a recent statement provided to Vancouver Is Awesome from RMHBC, the charity clarified it will be providing alternative accommodation options to affected tenants.
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“We are working with all families during the grace period in order to understand their particular circumstances and support them in finding alternate accommodation arrangements if we are unable to accommodate them."
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Explain how this isn't an eviction? Because it sounds like anyone who doesn't get an exemption from RMH will be required to be relocated - and anyone unvaccinated will also have extremely limited access to various resources
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In the video he asks her repeatedly and she says they have until the end of the month and gives no indication of what wll happen to them then.
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At one point he says "you're going to throw us out in the snow" and she does not deny or correct this
And the response from RMH also says they are "working with families during the grace period," which gives no indication of what happens when the grace period is up.
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I can certainly see how a reasonable person (and I can definitely see how a stressed-out parent) would take this letter, lack of correction, and lack of information to mean:
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At the end of the month you will be forced to get vaccinated, or you will face consequences that likely result in the loss of your residency at this location.
A residence for sick kids, some of whom are immunocompromised and are absolutely going to die from covid if it gets in, and your initial post is still a lie.
Uhm, rooms typically come with doors. Said doors can close. That's assuming they stop doing all the physical distancing and testing.
Also, where's the lie? Half of it was quotes.
I mean it's not a lie. They received a notice seemingly saying the unvaccinated can only remain in residence until the grace period is over.
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This is essentially an eviction notice. RMH's own staff did not dispute that this notice means they will be removed come the end of the grace period.
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Just because they're still ON the property doesn't mean it isn't an eviction notice.
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AND SPEAKING OF LIES.... You also haven't proven that he is an ANTI-VAXXER remotely raging about the vaccine cult. He says blatantly that they have all the vaccines - except covid. So feel free to correct yourself whenever.
And the vaccinated are far more likely (according to the overlords) to have covid and not know it, making them the actual "super-spreaders."
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So, really, they're a greater risk to this kid than the kid's unvaccinated parents.
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But by all means, continue justifying by whatever means necessary I suppose?
It's interesting that the above would make that comparison, since no one would vaccinate said animals either. Perhaps that is indeed how such people see their chilldren.
So you compare unvaccinated sick children to rats and cockroaches, I question that logic, then you say I made the comparison and suggest I see my children, that I don't have, as rats and cockroaches? Wow. That's some pretty impressive shitty personality you got there. Feel free to enjoy it alone.
They... they literally do forced vaccination programs on animals in many places. And forced sterilization.
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No idea if they do it on frogs, mind you. Might be a practice worth investing in if you genuinely think a child is the same as a cockroach.
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Hey, remember how everyone thinks they'd have been on the right side of history during WWII? And question how it was so easy for the Nazis to dehumanize the Jews? Or for white slave owners to dehumanize blacks?
Don't you know, Varnah? It's really the fault of the jews and blacks. If they just kept their heads down, complied, and thanked the selfless state for looking after them, everything would've been fine?
That fascismo that is the united power of the Government and the Corporation only have our best interests at heart.
And I am deeply sickened that it is even a possibility.
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This particular family's kid is 5. Another family impacted has a 4 year old. I presume other impacted residents are probably older than 3 and have likely been there for years (though I could be wrong). But We're ONLY in year 2 or 3-to slow-the-spread. The vaccines weren't available for a large portion of that, and vaccine mandates weren't enacted everywhere immediately.
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Everyone seems to be saying this is a brand spanking new policy for RMH - presumably because, until fairly recently, they couldn't force experimental drugs on children under 12, so banning unvaccinated children and their families would have literally empties most of the rmh residents
.
Either RMH is doing the strangest gaslighting in history to cover up for secretly violating a policy by allowing a multitude of unvaccinated adults to stay their facility (in a province where other vaccinated adults would readily snitch on the unvaccinated to head office and get them all thrown out no less)...
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....or this wasn't a mandatory policy when these adults were permitted to stay here with their children, and is, as RMH states, a NEW policy they're implementing now.
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Now, people call the unvaccinated the wild conspiracy theorists, but in this instance my vote is with occhams's razor.
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Which I probably didn't spell correctly but alas I don't care enough to Google it
But go ahead, enjoy your apartheid, concentration camps, military dictatorship, the cessation of all rights to all people. And understand that better people would have started shooting a long time ago.
-if you possess a firearm you should anticipate you will be shooting people and should probably preemptively plea to pre-meditated murder when you leave your house
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-if you are given aid by a charity for extremely sick children, you should anticipate that they will evict you at a moment's notice because unvaccinated people aren't allowed in Australia and some other places of business...?
To recap, if you're bringing a firearem into a violent situation, no, there's little to no chance anyone will get shot, how could that even happen?
And to recap: If you don't want to be shot, don't attack people.
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2. If the law violates human rights you're neither supposed to bring them, nor follow them. If tomorrow the Canadian government legislates that all babies be tested for autism and, if found to have it, all medical facilities be required to abort said babies.... You just... don't do that. And pregnant women already in those facilities absolutely should be shocked and horrified if any medical staff attempt to implement that practice
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3. as far as I know evicting the unvaccinated is not actually a law. And it wasn't a rule when they let them stay there.
Well, I see why Australia is as screwed as possible. Its citizens thinks that rules are rules regardless of morality. That's not terrifying at all and doesn't make me question your critical thinking at all. Morality is always part of the conversation unless you live somewhere with no human rights anyways.
Many follow the rules and have no problem with it, some don't and have a good cry over it. I'm all for those that don't want to be vaccinated, they just have to accept the consequences, such as, not being allowed into certain areas, businesses or even countries. Airlines require proof of vaccination before checking in when flying international, so why would it be a surprise when an unvaccinated is denied?
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because, unless I missed something (and very possible I did), the video clip of him talking to the Ronald McDonald House lady had her seemingly confirming they were going to evict families who were unvaccinated
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Ronald McDonald House seems to have backed down or clarified - but this was AFTER backlash
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And if they are not "evicting" the unvaccinated then I'm insanely curious how they intend to enforce the mandate that everyone there must be vaccinated
https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/local-news/heres-why-boycottmcdonalds-is-trending-in-vancouver-4949212
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“We are working with all families during the grace period in order to understand their particular circumstances and support them in finding alternate accommodation arrangements if we are unable to accommodate them."
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Explain how this isn't an eviction? Because it sounds like anyone who doesn't get an exemption from RMH will be required to be relocated - and anyone unvaccinated will also have extremely limited access to various resources
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In the video he asks her repeatedly and she says they have until the end of the month and gives no indication of what wll happen to them then.
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At one point he says "you're going to throw us out in the snow" and she does not deny or correct this
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I can certainly see how a reasonable person (and I can definitely see how a stressed-out parent) would take this letter, lack of correction, and lack of information to mean:
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At the end of the month you will be forced to get vaccinated, or you will face consequences that likely result in the loss of your residency at this location.
Good to know.
Also, where's the lie? Half of it was quotes.
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This is essentially an eviction notice. RMH's own staff did not dispute that this notice means they will be removed come the end of the grace period.
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Just because they're still ON the property doesn't mean it isn't an eviction notice.
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AND SPEAKING OF LIES.... You also haven't proven that he is an ANTI-VAXXER remotely raging about the vaccine cult. He says blatantly that they have all the vaccines - except covid. So feel free to correct yourself whenever.
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So, really, they're a greater risk to this kid than the kid's unvaccinated parents.
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But by all means, continue justifying by whatever means necessary I suppose?
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No idea if they do it on frogs, mind you. Might be a practice worth investing in if you genuinely think a child is the same as a cockroach.
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Hey, remember how everyone thinks they'd have been on the right side of history during WWII? And question how it was so easy for the Nazis to dehumanize the Jews? Or for white slave owners to dehumanize blacks?
That fascismo that is the united power of the Government and the Corporation only have our best interests at heart.