Good thing I'm on the toilet I wouldn't have stopped to read it otherwise. And I agree one hundred percent. I'm only 22 and kids and teenagers are completely different than they were in my time which wasn't that long ago.
Okay, be prepared for a LONG comment.
1.) Kids have always been trying to act more grown up in every generation. You can't place it solely on this one.
2.) Again, kids have always been having sex, drinking, smoking, etc. Unless you're referring to five year olds and such, then yeah, that's new. But you should be looking to the parents to enforce some discipline.
3.) A lot of people who complain about teenagers getting pregnant are hypocrites. If you had consensual sex as a teenager, then you can't complain because you could have gotten pregnant as well and you were just fortunate enough not to. Really, you should complain about teenagers having sex in general and that has been going on forever.
4.) Again, kids have always wanted to grow up and be an adult. This isn't some new development.
5.) Yes, we are too distracted by technology. This is very true. But apart from books, there's not much to do anymore. It's so easy to live now and we no longer face the struggle of survival so a lot of people are bored. Not to mention that nature is getting destroyed more by the second.
6.) We are not lazy, we are teenagers. Our bodies are flipping out on us, our hormones are going crazy, and we're insecure and very pressured. I'm not saying this to gain sympathy and don't say I'm exaggerating. Also, where the hell do you get off saying we're lazy? I know plenty of kids who bust their ass to get good grades, who spend five hours everyday after school training or doing extracurriculars, and things such as that. So, that's bullshit.
7.) Respecting your elders, in my opinion, is stupid. I'm not saying be outright rude to them, but you've got to EARN my respect. You don't just receive it because you're fifty years old. Also, there are a bunch of terrible elderly people. I mean, A LOT of our elders are homophobes, racists, sexists, etc. A lot of their ideas and opinions of the world are outdated. Excuse me if I refuse to respect a racist old man. Also, a bit off the deep end, but there are such things as child-molesters and a lot of murderers happen to be older than me. Should I respect them just because they're older?
8.) Yes, we are getting fatter and fatter. Thanks for pointing out one of our greatest insecurities in a world that's so obsessed with being skinny. Again, there's the lack of effort for survival nowadays and you pretty much only exercise if you want to be skinny or if you like exercise. A lot of people don't have time to fix healthy meals at home, so they buy McDonalds and such because it's faster. A lot of people don't have the energy or time to exercise because they're too busy with other things in their lives. This goes to people in and out of my generation.
9.) We're not getting stupider. Everyone is stupid at this age. Fifty years ago there, were teenagers being idiots and fifty years from now, there will be teenagers acting like idiots. Also, in my opinion, there's no "stupid". Some people are smarter in some subject than others are and those other people might be smarter in various subject than some are. We're all smart and dumb in various subjects and things so there really no way to measure intelligence (however, I do call people stupid and idiots often, so this is pretty hypocritical of me, but I never really believe them to be stupid or idiots, I use those insults under pretty broad terms).
10.) Seriously? A guy asking PERMISSION from another guy to date me? First of all, you make it sound as though the girls have no say in the matter. Second of all, it's your choice to do what you want and you don't need permission from anyone.
11.) Romance is not dead. There are still plenty of people who woo girls with flowers and cards and such. Also, there have always been dicks that have tried to win girls with their levels of coolness, but it's now been replaced with "swag". Also, not all guys my age are like this. There are still plenty of polite guys, you're obviously just not looking hard enough.
12.) Again, you're obviously not looking hard enough. There are plenty of couples who actually love or like each other and sex just seems to be a benefit of that. What about couples who aren't having sex? Obviously they're built on something more than sex. And AGAIN, there's always been couples who are just in it for the sex, so stop making it to be some new thing.
13.) Stop judging music. There was a post a few weeks ago about this. Stop judging people by their taste in music, people will like what they like and you're in no position to complain about it. I, personally, have no problem with the music unless it's racist, homophobic, etc. I generally dislike the musicians more than the music.
14.) This is an extremely narrow post. You're judging an entire generation from a very small sample.
@whocares THANK YOU! Thanks you for making sure our generation has a positive voice! All I ever hear is negative things, and yet I know that it is not all negative. Every generation will say this about the past generation but thank you!! For advocating us to be not all to blame! @iwantasandwich there's always a minority of idiots with in a mojority, don't judge all of us based on that minority
Yeah, no problem. I was getting annoyed by it, too, so I just felt an obligation to stand up for my generation. :) Anyways, it sounds like iwantasandwhich is gonna hit me with some of his/her own facts and opinions—some of which I might agree with—so it's not over yet.
I think it's more that your keyboard buttons are too small, I'm sure your thumbs are perfectly fine (as weird as that sounds). Anyways, there's good and bad in everything, just people usually focus on the bad as opposed to the good.
Also @iwantasandwhich, I would like you to know that when I said the words "you" or "your" or anything like that, I wasn't talking to YOU. I was talking to the person on Tumblr who posted this and writing as though I was directly replying to them on Tumblr. I would just like you to know that because, rereading my comment, it seemed like I was talking to you when I wasn't so I just wanted to clear up any confusion. :)
@whocares, although you've made really excellent points, I think that the person who wrote this, when they are talking about 'kids', is referring to the decent amount of 10-13 year olds who are getting involved in activities, such as sex, drugs, smoking, drinking etc., and as far as I can grasp, other generations haven't been *that* young.
Yeah, I was wondering that. I pretty much consider all teenagers to be kids. Anyways, I doubt other generations have been that young, but I'm sure there have been a few. I mean, there's always the sixteen or fifteen year olds smoking and drinking in the old 80's cheesy high school movies and thirteen years old isn't that far away.
Well to give u some small comfort I know a lot of people and about 3 are what that tumblr post describes, I am not one of them and I hope I'll never be one. ( I'm nearly 13.)
There's a lot of people I know who act like this. I mean, they're not as bad as the post describes or makes it seem, but they do the basic stuff. And here I am at home, watching TV, bitching on Funsubstance, and eating ice cream. :D
Well I was gonna make a big rant similar to whocares, I had a few disagreements with what she said, but overall was the exact same sentiment I had. So thanks for that whocares :P
@whocares I agree with some of the things and some of them I don't but I have to give you a lot of credit for going through the trouble to write that. Anyway for the respecting your elders thing that is exactly how I've always thought about it! If they respect me than I'll respect them. I'll be nice to them till they give me a reason not to and I'll respect them if I think they deserve it. But about the asking your parents permission to date you I don't agree with. It's not that you don't have any say in it it's just showing your parents that he respects them and that it matters to him what they think of him. you obviously wouldn't have said yes to him coming and picking you up if you didn't want to get to know him.
@iamanavenger Thank you, I'm glad and I appreciate your respect.
@pancakesandwaffles Thanks for the credit, I suppose. Anyways, as for the parents' permission, yes, I would like my mother to like the guy I'm dating. But, at the same time, she does not control me and if she hates him for some weird reason that I think is unimportant, then I'm not going to stop dating him. I'll probably try to reason with her and get a "told you so" later seeing as my mother is usually correct about these things. ;)
Anyways, the thing that really annoyed me about that comment was the father's permission part. That's a very old, out of date tradition that started (I'm assuming so) when women had no rights and no say whatsoever as to who they dated. When daughters were married off to a proper husband without even meeting the guy first. What about the mother's permission?
I'm 15 and proud to say I don't act like this at all but sadly most do. To be honest I already don't like the future generation coming up. The other day my ICT teacher said she got her 3 year old and ipad. When I was 3 I just played with teddies. But in all honesty it's up to the parents to teach us most of these things the only reasons most teenagers do this is because parents let them get away it. I'm glad my mom isn't a lazy parent and actually enforces some displince.
And with this post you are reffering to Britain and America, kids don't have respect or manners and no we are not getting fatter and fatter you are probaly. We are also not "stupid" at this age, again you probaly reffer to GB and the USA etc . Don't judge the world by what your country looks like.
Maybe they weren't judging the world, but rather specifically "our generation" which could be defined as the people like us, not just people born at the same time (ie, people of our age in first world countries)
Everyone is getting fatter and fatter? Have you looked around at all? Teenagers are STARVING themselves to look skinny. If anything, that is the least bit of concern you should have. Kids want to fit in and they want to be accepted. We all are different sizes and to look large, but to be HEALTHY is fine, not starving yourself to look skinny. Society refuses to accept anyone who is possibly the slightest bit bigger than a model. Its people like you who should realize that yeah, maybe a lot of the teenagers are obese, but has it ever crossed your mind that maybe their healthy? We're not all made to look like models.
I agree with most of what you said, but obesity, by its definition, is unhealthy. Also, if you're going to complain about society not accepting overweight people, then you should also not call super skinny people "twigs". It goes both ways.
I do know that obesity is unhealthy, I did state, "Maybe a lot of the teenagers are obese." It works both ways with the argument, but I was trying to get the point across that since there are some kids that are larger than most doesn't mean its wrong. We're all human and we all are different. Whether you're larger than some people, or you're skinny, what matters is being healthy.
Wait, what? That makes no sense. Obesity isn't healthy, no matter how you put it. And you're considered obese if you're body mass index is 30.0 or over.
If you're talking about people who just naturally have different body types that make them larger or people who have muscles that make them larger or just different from the ideal body type, then that's not unhealthy but those people typically aren't obese.
I mean, I agree that being obese isn't wrong, it's just unhealthy.
I am not stating obesity is healthy.... I'm stating that if you may be bigger than some people, but you are healthy in your body, and you are eating the right amount of food etc. etc. THAT'S FINE. Being obese is unhealthy and extremely dangerous. The point I'm trying to make is that as long as your healthy in your body and you don't have an eating disorder, it shouldn't matter how you look, whether you're skinny or fat, it matters if your healthy.
@vlekkie Honey, you need to shut it. You talk about being better than all of these other countries, when you're just being as rude as the stereotype of them.
Anyways, I just didn't understand it because what he/she was saying didn't make sense. As in, the actual sentence structure and such.
I got the main point that however you look is fine, but when they said, " . . . maybe a lot of teenagers are obese, but has it ever crossed your mind that maybe they're healthy?" but then wrote, "I do know that obesity is unhealthy, I did state state, 'Maybe a lot of teenagers are obese.' It works both ways with the argument." That just made no sense to me.
Its not more common, its just more public. 50 years ago a guy could be a big pothead or drinker or whatever and the only people that knew were the people that physically saw him do it, and the few people he could brag about it to. Nowadays you can post it on twitter or facebook and all the sudden hundreds or thousands of people can see it. And for the parents, it was much easier to hide the "problem" kids. Girl gets pregnant "oh shes sick" for 9 months as the mom gets "pregnant".
The same problems have been around since society in America started. If a teen got pregnant in the 50s the whole city would know. In the 1800s girls that had children through wetlock had to wear red A's on their shirt. Just because we have media doesnt mean anything
Yes, once again, tht is true. But back then they were shunned by all and disowned by their families, it was looked down upon. Now it is more widely accepted, not by all but by many. The problem is that people are being desensitized by the world.
I don't really think it's that big of a problem. I mean, the opinion that being born out of wedlock is bad is a widely religious view. It goes along with saving yourself until marriage. While plenty of non-religious people still think premarital sex is bad, religion isn't quite as ruling anymore and we are now more lenient to the various sins. Such as premarital sex and babies born out of wedlock.
I mean, overall, the world has gotten better as a whole. There's still plenty of things things wrong with it and many countries haven't developed much, but others have and they've made tremendous progress. I mean, in the United States fifty years ago, interracial marriage was illegal but forced sterilizations were legal. Nowadays, around 81 percent of THIS generation supports homosexuals and same-sex marriage while it's surely not as big a percentage in other generations.
Haven't you seem my previous comments? I'm not really judging them. I'm saying kids have been doing these things for generations and I'm trying to defend them. Okay, yes, I am talking from my first-world point of view, but I'm not talking about other countries. I am talking about kids my age in similar countries. Not kids in Kenya or some such. The dynamics are completely different there.
Ooh, it does look pretty. And why are the Europeans being murdered?
I've always wanted to go to Africa. From the limited knowledge I have on the original people and their culture there, it sounds amazing. Personally, I've always had a strong inclination towards Kenya for some reason. I definitely plan on going there some day. :) South Africa seems amazing as well.
If we get a new government it would help, and Europeans are being murdered because of what the old government did (apartheid), but I talk to coloured people quite a lot and they say they would rather choose the old white government than the new black one, it is said to be "democratic" the truth is they don't even know what it means, they are communists, terrorists etc. Google "The South African border war" :)
I feel terrible because most of these things I don't do and I try to be different from my age group by not doing all these things but I still get labelled with "this messed up generation" and I just feel bad about it... :(
I think i'm a little bit late but I agree everything said @whocares and and just want to say that the scary generation is not us (~90s) but the future generation, the kids from now look just what they do at 5-6 years or early, they are into the technology and the reality TV, all this bad influence like video games with guns and all.... just want to wait 10 years and see what they will be (sorry for the mistakes i'm french ^^)
Yes because video games with guns in them are only very recent and havent been around for decades or anything. I mean, they didn't make accessories shaped like GUNS to shoot things since like the 60's or anything. No I believe the first gun game came out in 2006. Thats when all the real problems started happening
I don't know if I'll get dislikes for this but, in my opinion this has been every teenage generation and for the music part, ALWAYS the older people criticize the newer music. There's not much to do when you're a teenager, that is why I waste my time on books and the internet.
I'm a teen and I'm not doing any of that because I would rather focus on spending time with my family wich I know by personal experience can be taken from you at any moment with no warning I don't think most teensy age understand how important living a life style at the momeny that accomponies your age is but I understand and I agree with what this person said
Erm, excuse me - kids have always /always/ tried to act more grown up. It isn't this generation's fault that there isn't much to grow up from when you're giving your 8 year olds iPhones. Furthermore, much of societies' perception of us is judged by movies - WHO ARE THOSE MADE BY? Not teenagers. Who chooses what music plays on the radio? Whichever adult has the money to pay to get their client played by /adults/. If they played good music, more teenagers would listen to good music. Sorry, but stop blaming kids entirely for society as a whole, when they're just growing into it. And the same applies to the generations before. It is a mutual problem from the last thousand years, that gets worse, not just this generation's problem.
To be fair, I read none of the responses to this. But I would say your parents, and their parents, had similar bones to pick about their proceeding generations. Wake up, if you don't like the world you live in, shut up and do something.
I agree with all of that one hundred percent. I have never had a boyfriend so far but I want one that will come up to the door and ask my parents permission to date me instead of honking the horn. I think that that would be adorably sweet.
And there are still lots of people who do that. It's just the ones that honk the horn get publicized. the "our generation" everyone thinks about is a few loud dbags. There are lots of good things about our generation that are actually unique, and almost every single thing people complain about has happened in past generations.
Yes I know that there are still people that do that but I didn't say that there wasn't I just said that I think that it would be sweet. Our generation is actually very unique like you said and these things have happened in past generations but I feel like it was way less socially acceptable back then. I mean, it's frowned upon in the generation but not much is being done about it.
You did say you agree with the post completely, when the post was talking about how much our generation sucks... So? And sure, it's more socially acceptable for teenage girls to wear hardly anything more than a bikini in public, but there are a lot of other things that were not bad that weren't socially acceptable in the past (or by past generations), like women actually having rights and not being owned by men, and gays having relationship rights. So our generation is not /bad/, and I'm sick of people saying that they've lost faith in it. I have complete faith in our generation for being the most open-minded in a very, very long time. I'm proud of us for the majority who actually see that alcohol is bad and it isn't cool to be a slut. The only thing that disappoints me about this generation as a whole is that we have a tendency to look at one thing and judge the whole world.
Yes I did say that I agree with it completely... Well I have to say that everyone has made very good points and that I don't agree with it so much anymore. But you make some very good points too. I guess the reason that everyone thinks that this generation is so bad is because you don't hear much about all of this in the past generation when I guess it actually DID happen in the generations before us. This generation is SUPER awesome. It's just the sluts and dbags that give it a bad name. I like living in this generation. We have a lot more opportunities and things like that.
Where told how to do stuff by adults they tell us not to do stuff but look at it this way I would rather have people doing what they want then some messed up generation of puppets following all the rules which would lead to a bland and boring world.
I love you. Yes, this is exactly right. If we always do what we're told and never become independent, we're basically puppets. Don't discourage that. :)
Yeah, that's what kinda sucks about the Internet, a lot of people are unnecessarily rude or act like assholes. But I've had a good day today! :) And I'm glad I was able to give you a nice reply, you did make a wonderful point after all.
I do not feel ashamed to be a kid living in this generation. Some people in my grade disgust me by showing too much skin or just downright acting inappropriate for our age. I try my best to not be swept up by those kind of actions, however this generation is making great advances on technology, arts, and government. There are also many children and teenagers who do not act the way most people are supposed to be and are wonderful people. One thing I must admit is that I agree technology is definitely killing conversations. For example, me and my dad were at a restaurant and we barely said a word to each other. In conclusion even if this generation does have its flaws I believe we are living in a great time and should appreciate it.
I understand what you mean about the technology, but at the same time... What were you doing on your electronics? Generally, I'm having conversations with other people. I'm connecting to more people, and as an introvert, it helps a lot to not have to diddle with smalltalk that doesn't matter when instead I can talk about things like the novel I'm writing or my college plans.... Especially as before I got into technology, I would read. And reading isn't a bad thing, but that's not really conversing to anyone, let alone the person you're with. If you have something to say to someone, you'll talk, otherwise, why does it matter what you're doing?
Sorry for the necro... I just wanted to say, just because someone doesn't have good lyrics or lyrics at all in their songs, doesn't mean they don't make good music. I mean Skrillex makes awesome music.
1.) Kids have always been trying to act more grown up in every generation. You can't place it solely on this one.
2.) Again, kids have always been having sex, drinking, smoking, etc. Unless you're referring to five year olds and such, then yeah, that's new. But you should be looking to the parents to enforce some discipline.
3.) A lot of people who complain about teenagers getting pregnant are hypocrites. If you had consensual sex as a teenager, then you can't complain because you could have gotten pregnant as well and you were just fortunate enough not to. Really, you should complain about teenagers having sex in general and that has been going on forever.
4.) Again, kids have always wanted to grow up and be an adult. This isn't some new development.
6.) We are not lazy, we are teenagers. Our bodies are flipping out on us, our hormones are going crazy, and we're insecure and very pressured. I'm not saying this to gain sympathy and don't say I'm exaggerating. Also, where the hell do you get off saying we're lazy? I know plenty of kids who bust their ass to get good grades, who spend five hours everyday after school training or doing extracurriculars, and things such as that. So, that's bullshit.
10.) Seriously? A guy asking PERMISSION from another guy to date me? First of all, you make it sound as though the girls have no say in the matter. Second of all, it's your choice to do what you want and you don't need permission from anyone.
12.) Again, you're obviously not looking hard enough. There are plenty of couples who actually love or like each other and sex just seems to be a benefit of that. What about couples who aren't having sex? Obviously they're built on something more than sex. And AGAIN, there's always been couples who are just in it for the sex, so stop making it to be some new thing.
14.) This is an extremely narrow post. You're judging an entire generation from a very small sample.
@pancakesandwaffles Thanks for the credit, I suppose. Anyways, as for the parents' permission, yes, I would like my mother to like the guy I'm dating. But, at the same time, she does not control me and if she hates him for some weird reason that I think is unimportant, then I'm not going to stop dating him. I'll probably try to reason with her and get a "told you so" later seeing as my mother is usually correct about these things. ;)
Anyways, the thing that really annoyed me about that comment was the father's permission part. That's a very old, out of date tradition that started (I'm assuming so) when women had no rights and no say whatsoever as to who they dated. When daughters were married off to a proper husband without even meeting the guy first. What about the mother's permission?
If you're talking about people who just naturally have different body types that make them larger or people who have muscles that make them larger or just different from the ideal body type, then that's not unhealthy but those people typically aren't obese.
I mean, I agree that being obese isn't wrong, it's just unhealthy.
Anyways, I just didn't understand it because what he/she was saying didn't make sense. As in, the actual sentence structure and such.
I got the main point that however you look is fine, but when they said, " . . . maybe a lot of teenagers are obese, but has it ever crossed your mind that maybe they're healthy?" but then wrote, "I do know that obesity is unhealthy, I did state state, 'Maybe a lot of teenagers are obese.' It works both ways with the argument." That just made no sense to me.
I mean, overall, the world has gotten better as a whole. There's still plenty of things things wrong with it and many countries haven't developed much, but others have and they've made tremendous progress. I mean, in the United States fifty years ago, interracial marriage was illegal but forced sterilizations were legal. Nowadays, around 81 percent of THIS generation supports homosexuals and same-sex marriage while it's surely not as big a percentage in other generations.
I've always wanted to go to Africa. From the limited knowledge I have on the original people and their culture there, it sounds amazing. Personally, I've always had a strong inclination towards Kenya for some reason. I definitely plan on going there some day. :) South Africa seems amazing as well.