I knew a Christian girl who was the type to rub her religion in your face who kept saying she wait till marriage then she started 9th grade and she's not close to being a virgin but I'm sure she's making money off that now. Also not saying all religious girls are like that also makes but it does indeed go down that path sometimes and they are the ones who judge the most. (Don't think I'm slut shaming or being mean because it's the honest and sad truth she may be a prostitute in Seattle now...)
Leviticus has been fulfilled and is now just a history book. Instead, use 1 timothy 1:8-11
With this said, everyone has one of those labels on them, everyone.
It's a list of instructions according to Mosaic Law -- the law that Christ fulfilled and subsequently replaced with his higher law. So while there is a lot that can be learned, it is more of a historical record than direct instruction at this point.
The thing about the old testesteament is it was all fulfilled by Christ when he died on the cross and rose again. (Easter) And Paul who was one of the head guys for the Christian church talked many times about how homosexuality is wrong according to god. But that I believe however we are still supposed to love them. I don't believe we should judge others because sin is sin. No sin is 'greater'then the other. And I promise you Christians are not the most judgmental. We no longer kill people because they don't believe in our religion, which many other religions across the world still do. And being catholic is actually a form I Christianity. Many Catholics that I have spoken with anyway say they are catholic before Christian. I say I'm Christian before baptist. Very very different.
Not really sure what you meant at the end, Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant, etc. are all denominations of Christianity. Kind of like saying New Yorkers, Californians, South Dakotans, and Coloradans are all Americans. You can't say you are Catholic without being a Christian, just as you cant say you are a Californian without being American.
How dare she say that he makes her sick? She makes people sick with her stupid preaching and bitching!
Also, the reason why it was forbidden is that women were considered inferior. Unless she wants to go back in time and become an obedient housewife who does nothing all day but cleans and cooks and opens her legs for her husband, she should rethink the whole thing.
I would like to share my opinion on marrige, marrige isn't only between man and woman but instead between love and love. No marrige should be "forbidden" if it is two people (no matter the gender) who love each other.
You aren't very good at english are you... Here, allow me to translate for you... "If a man laid with a man, like a man lies with a woman, both men have committed sin"
You can't really make any claims, unless you study the original, or old bibles, since publishers and translators often change or mistranslate information when printing the bible.
People need to understand that I am Roman Catholic we never say that being gay is wrong Jesus also said to never judge anyone, didn't he also say take the plank out of your eye before taking the splinter out of someone else's, the only reason why don't allow gay marriage is because we believe that when you're married it is because you want to reproduce and you can only do that if you are married. Marriage doesn't define love and I understand that gay couple love jus the same as everyone else. I just get annoyed sometimes because people seem to believe we hate gay people!!! We don't!!! Pope Francis said “If someone is gay, who searches for the Lord and has goodwill, who am I to judge?” Did he not???
The first verse is in Leveticus and the second verse is in Dueteronomy. That's a book of the bible in the Old Testament. So, this half of the bible is more of history than christan values; Christ fullfilled the Old Testament when he died on the cross then rose again 3 days later (Easter) so some laws such as the "should be executed" parts in BOTH verses quoted are not relevant to or a part of the Christiam laws and values we follow today. That means we don't follow the execution laws stated in either verse (same with most of the other old testament laws) these people quoted but the values are the same, for example homosexuality is not exactly correlated with Christiam values and neither is sex before marraige (that's what the second quote means). Although the bible does say homosexuality is wrong, I still believe we should "love another as yourself". it still says we should love everyone as a brother or sister and not be judgemental of anyone.
I'm gay and I come from Croatia and most people here are catholic and it's sad how many people are against homosexuality especially the older generations (by that I mean above 30 literally).In order to be a good catholic you need to love God and other people and that is what christianity is about,but sadly so many people sin all the time,judge,curse God and don't go to church but then they're all like "OMG I hate gay guys it's a sin..kill them for Jesus..woow I'm such a good catholic someone give me a cookie".That's literally how it is.It's sad how many people claim to be religious and good yet they don't obey almost any rules or wishes made my the Bible but think they're good because they're judging sinners which the Bible states should be killed.Jesus also said not to judge other but it seems no one cares.Honestly I like the new testament waay more than the old one.In the old one god punishes everyone instead of forgiving people and it's just history and tons of rules and laws.
Judge people, no. But tolerate sin? Definitely not. It is true that hypocrisy is a great sin, but are you not doing exactly the same thing with the massive amount of judging you just did?
When it comes down to it, other people's sins have nothing to do with yours. Yes, some people can be hypocritical. But that had nothing to do with whether or not homosexual behavior is a sin
So you're slamming him for explaining his situation and defending himself? You're just like another batshit crazy religious person I know I guess. I've come to use this word a lot more on this site because everyone either can't handle shit and bitch about it or are just religious assholes. You're fucking pathetic
Thanks for the prefect demonstration of a double-standard. When I do it, it's "slamming", but when he does it, it's just "defending himself." Nothing I said was hostile or hateful in any way. If you think it was, I'd love for you to explain how ningo's original comment wasn't.
I offered a calm, reasonable defense, and your rebuttal has no more substance to it than pulling out your favorite desperate insults.
Please forgive me if I'm not impressed or convinced.
You were not offensive in any way and sparklez may have overreacted a bit but to be honest my goal was never to judge others and even if I did others are judging me for something I can not control so my defense is to judge them and say what they're doing wrong in order to try and make other rethink about homosexuality.I didn't do a massive amount of judging and try not to judge but I had to do it this time,and when I judge others I do it alone in my mind instead of shouting in public saying how gays are dusgusting to the point where that judging turns into something so common that even the law cuts gays from the right to marry the same sex.And why would my comment be hostile?I just stated my opinion about what is currently happening in my country and about my religion..do you expect me to do this without "judging"?Also didn't you just judge me as well?Didn't sparklez judge you?It's impossible to state your opinion without a bit of judging.
I didn't mean to imply that your comment was hostile, I just hoped to point out that Sparklez was being inconsistent in the way he judged your comment vs. mine.
I can understand the way you feel, ningo. While I do still refuse to endorse a homosexual lifestyle, I understand the frustration you feel when people judge you unfairly or unrighteously. There will always be people who do that. But it's not just something that religious people do -- it's something that people in general are prone to do. Sparklez confirmed that for us yesterday. I think it's important to not be selective in the people we choose to dislike because of their faults and failures. Instead, try to understand that all of us are trying to figure out how life works, so we're all in the same boat. There's no sense pitting ourselves against each other, because deep down we're all on the same team. Unfortunately many religious people forget that sometimes. Many nonreligious people do as well. We all need to get better.
I'm not gonna take the time to read your comments. Not out of wanting to ignore your argument but because I really get tired of arguing religion. That's really what makes me mad is people not being able to accept other people's beliefs without telling them what's wrong with them. They're their beliefs. Not yours. Let them believe what they want and don't be a dick about it
As always people have no idea what they are talking about. The first calls homosexuality an abomination. Obviously God isn't just going to say, "oh it's alright now." The punishments though are under the old law before Jesus's death, we are now under the law of the spirit. Anyway that was back when sex after marriage was expected.
With this said, everyone has one of those labels on them, everyone.
Whoa what one guy slept with all men on Earth? also *lay
Also, the reason why it was forbidden is that women were considered inferior. Unless she wants to go back in time and become an obedient housewife who does nothing all day but cleans and cooks and opens her legs for her husband, she should rethink the whole thing.
When it comes down to it, other people's sins have nothing to do with yours. Yes, some people can be hypocritical. But that had nothing to do with whether or not homosexual behavior is a sin
*gives virtual glowing potato*
I offered a calm, reasonable defense, and your rebuttal has no more substance to it than pulling out your favorite desperate insults.
Please forgive me if I'm not impressed or convinced.
I can understand the way you feel, ningo. While I do still refuse to endorse a homosexual lifestyle, I understand the frustration you feel when people judge you unfairly or unrighteously. There will always be people who do that. But it's not just something that religious people do -- it's something that people in general are prone to do. Sparklez confirmed that for us yesterday. I think it's important to not be selective in the people we choose to dislike because of their faults and failures. Instead, try to understand that all of us are trying to figure out how life works, so we're all in the same boat. There's no sense pitting ourselves against each other, because deep down we're all on the same team. Unfortunately many religious people forget that sometimes. Many nonreligious people do as well. We all need to get better.