I didn't post this to cause a shitstorm, and definitely not to troll. I just posted this because I agree with it. If people want to bitch and moan in the comments,then it's their problem,not mine.
It's not unreasonable for a parent to be somewhat upset that their son or daughter turned out to be gay. Especially if it's their only child. That would mean that your line has ended because they won't be making any children of their own. Kinda sucks, really
Who the hell wouldn't care?? You don't want to have grandkids? You would have to be on an EXTREME level of PC to be celebrating that your kid came out gay or trans. Anyone would be at least a little upset about it.
oh well yeah. Of course I would accept and love my kids no matter what. But it would be upsetting to find out they were gay. I would eventually get over it. I just think it's bullshit that this post is calling people out who would get upset and calling them shitty parents. That's fucked
I'm aromantic and asexual, which means that i do not experience romantic or sexual attraction to anyone. and NO it does not mean I "havent found the right person yet" or that i'm "being stubborn."
Jesus christ, you'd be upset? Because your child is not using their body the way YOU want them to use it, by having kids?? You realize how weird that is right? It's their bod to do with as they please. And even if they were straight it's not a guarantee of them having children. Also I will point out Gay people can still have their own children? Sperm donation or surrogacy are definitely viable options for genetic continuation, as is if your child is in a relationship with a transgender person.
Not sure who that is (not that it matters), but she doesn't know enough to be calling anyone a shitty parent. They are probably just trying to find a way to understand and cope with the information. The last thing they should be doing is listen to some bitch comment on their parenthood without the slightest bit of data.
I don't think you have to automatically jump to calling them shitty parents. Most parents love their children no matter who they turn out to be, but I think most parents who might be "upset" are either struggling to understand something that is (let's be honest here) not that common in most people's experience, or are simply concerned about their children having a difficult time in society. The post does not say the parents are pissed or hate their kids, just "upset".
I think Adrianna means that the parents are mad, and wish their kid wasn't LGBT. Being confused and not knowing what to do is different. I know a guy, whos gay, and whos parents are super christian and hate gays. That is what the guy is talking about. When the parents don't except the kids for who they are, not not understanding, and not knowing how to help their kids.
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Of course I wish my child wasn't gay. One might be okay if their child is gay, but I can't imagine any parent wishing their child was guy. This is not meant to be mad at guest but at the person who posted this.
Trans is the only thing I can find myself even being upset about. There's a statistic floating around that a lot of people who get surgery to change gender commit suicide soon after. I'm all for dressing and looking as much like the opposite gender as much as they want. And you can hate on me all you want but it is a real thing, hell even Caitlyn Jenner admitted to having very dark thoughts after surgery.
Different guest here. The statistic you mentioned comes from a longitudinal study following trans people who underwent gender reassignment surgery, which did indeed find that the sample group had a higher suicide rate than the general population.
However, because the study was not specifically meant to look at suicide rates, it doesn't include a control group of transgender people who did not elect to have surgery. This means we can't conclude that transitioning is a risk factor for suicide, because we don't know if it actually increases compared to trans people who don't opt for surgery.
A more likely explanation for the higher suicide rates in the trans sample is the negative effects of discrimination and social stigma on mental health.
Exactamundo. Problem is that lgbt issues are EXTREMELY politically charged and very few researchers have the balls (or the death wish) to conduct research, or report findings, that may contradict current pc dogma. As evidence I offer what the American Psychological Association's website says about homosexuality and transgenderism; it does not simply reverse its previous stance that homosexuality is a mental disorder, it reads like an activist site. While many may agree with what the APA has to say, the way in which it says it is highly suspect from a scientific point of view. The current sociopolitical climate for those researchers who may be seen to dissent on such topics (whether they actually do is of no consequence) is every bit as dangerous as the dark ages were for physical science. Any researcher who would be perceived as attacking lgbt issues risks being branded a heretic, or worse.
I agree, we should keep such issues from science, because they are not scientific in nature. Political, societal, religious, etc disputes do nothing but corrupt the world and bring about chaos that certain groups of people use to their advantage. I for one am of the mind that people need to keep shit to themselves, and there would be far fewer issues. You worship computers as gods that created the universe? Good for you, keep that shit to yourself and like-minded people, and nobody will bother you. You are sexually attracted to black holes? Go find one and fuck it, but don't bother everybody else about it.
As a member of APA I don't even know where to begin. Homosexuality was removed as a mental disorder in 1973. Five years after it was classified as such in 1968. 1968, a year before interracial marriages were legal in all states. We research and learn. It is too frustrating to continue.I encourage any one with questions to examine peer reviewed research published in legitimate journals. I suggest google scholar instead of Wikipedia as a starting point. Just an update: we also no longer believe psychosis is caused by demonic possession or that trepanning is an appropriate treatment.
And don't listen to anyone tell you about what kind of parent you are. There are reasons why that news is difficult to come to terms with. Anyone who doesn't see that is unreasonable.
Exactly right. @bebajune I assume from the tone of your post that you do not think your daughter is a terrible person and have not turned your back on her? That kind of news is probably somewhat of a shocker for most parents, especially if they have not noticed "signs" and the news comes out of nowhere. Parents are people too, and sometimes take awhile to process something that big. This does not necessarily make them shitty parents.
When I came out, my parents told me that it was disgusting and shameful & no one would ever accept me & they couldn't be proud of me anymore.. They were obviously very upset, and still are 4 years later, but I'm still more upset that they won't accept me.
That is sad. On the opposite side of the coin from my response to bebajune, this probably does make them shitty parents. I don't know your parents so I won't judge them on what they may be going through, but I will judge them poorly on how they responded to you. Even if someone has a hard time understanding, and even if someone is religious and thinks its a sin, your children are still your children. You can dislike their choices and still love them. I'm sure it's small consolation but you have my sympathy and support.
Lesbian.
Gay.
Bisexual.
Transgender.
Long ago, the LGBT community lived together in harmony. Then, everything changed when the Westboro Baptists attacked. Only the Fabatar, master of all four sexualities could stop them, but when the world needed them most, they vanished.
A hundred years passed, and my brother and I discovered the new Fabatar, a gay named Neil Patrick Harris. Although his fabulosity is great, he has a lot to learn before he's ready to save anyone.
But I believe Neil can save the world.
And surrogates
However, because the study was not specifically meant to look at suicide rates, it doesn't include a control group of transgender people who did not elect to have surgery. This means we can't conclude that transitioning is a risk factor for suicide, because we don't know if it actually increases compared to trans people who don't opt for surgery.
A more likely explanation for the higher suicide rates in the trans sample is the negative effects of discrimination and social stigma on mental health.
Gay.
Bisexual.
Transgender.
Long ago, the LGBT community lived together in harmony. Then, everything changed when the Westboro Baptists attacked. Only the Fabatar, master of all four sexualities could stop them, but when the world needed them most, they vanished.
A hundred years passed, and my brother and I discovered the new Fabatar, a gay named Neil Patrick Harris. Although his fabulosity is great, he has a lot to learn before he's ready to save anyone.
But I believe Neil can save the world.