Nah son. It's common sense.
Here is a good example:
If a kid doesn't have autism, eats an apple, and three years later shows signs of autism, then it's obvious that vaccines cause autism.
What about
Thimerosal is the preservative of choice for vaccine manufacturers. First introduced by Eli Lilly and Company in the late 1920s and early 1930s, the company began selling it as a preservative in vaccines in the 1940s. Thimerosal contains 49.6 percent mercury by weight and is metabolized or degraded into ethylmercury and thiosalicylate. Mercury, or more precisely, ethylmercury, is the principle agent that kills contaminants. Unfortunately, mercury also kills much more. And I know without a doubt mercury will cause issues ...
Dude... the surplus of the incumbent flux capacitor is higher with contagious in the fourth and fifth parolaxidal tricep. Now, under the eighth quadrilateral there is a slight libertarian hamster eating lettuce.
Remove the hamster and you have what?
Autism. Every time.
I'm kidding, my ADD meds wore off about an hour ago. i'ma have to come back to your comment tomorrow.
Some notes about the man himself and his research: the theories were perpetuated by the companies that paid him to have his research have those results (part of the reason he's not a doctor anymore) and others with similar agendas, and the main reason for its public circulation was that it was published before others could attempt to repeat his experiments, in which no link was found. Additionally, the larger part of his loss of his medical license was that he performed unnecessarily invasive procedures on the children, including colonoscopies and lumbar punctures (commonly known as spinal taps). When he was investigated by a tribunal of the British General Medical Council, three dozen charges laid against him were proven, "including four counts of dishonesty and 12 counts involving the abuse of developmentally challenged children."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Wakefield
I know that you can't believe everything you read on Wikipedia, but I feel that an article with this many citations in the introduction is reliable enough for this context.
@sm19 still dosent change thimerosal contains mercury which is not good for.the human please .stop ..you act like that CDC will put out information stating yep the shots are gonna cause brain damage...please
@smokeythebear I'm trying to say that the mercury that's in these shots (it's not in all of them) isn't harmful. You need to stop acting like there's a big conspiracy here. The CDC's job is to inform us of dangerous things. Also lets say even if vaccines cause autism (WHICH THEY DON'T) would you rather have a kid with autism or one who died of a preventable disease?
You need to quit acting like a poison won't cause any damage to the human.... ill take the dead kid ,since you wanna go full retard.
How do you know liVing with autism is really living .it requires help almost your entire life .
How do you know its not living? Brain activity = life, No brain activity = no life (might keep people alive with a machine, but they wont be awake.) Mercury might be a poison, but so is alcohol. Even in the seeds inside of normal apples there are some really strong poisons (cyanide i think it was) that technically if taken in larger doses could kill a person.
Next time you post something, please state in the first segment of your comment that you wear a tinfoil hat at all times!
Mercury is not dangerous in that form goddamnit. That's what we're saying. Fluorine is the most corrosive element ever but it's in toothpaste because in whatever form it's in (I forgot) it very slightly helps to BUILD enamel.
Thank you klymaxx ..notice the duche bags with the citation bullshit ..do a little independent research you will be amazed what you learn ..by requesting he citations they are the type to be spoon fed eveytime
Because I naturally am skeptical of homeopathic and pseudo-science based claims. You ever heard of ingesting rabbit foot powder or something like that? Well they dilute it so that there's only a few molecules per several hundred servings. Not even one molecule per one serving. But they still claim that it works.
I don't think you understand. Mercury in its raw form is not very dangerous. Mercury in thiowhatever is not dangerous. Mercury in methyl compounds is stupidly dangerous. It's not hard to understand. Chemistry has been done on this. It doesn't matter if you mix it in egg whites or water. It doesn't matter what the manufacturer says. If it's dangerous, it's not the Mercury compound. It's probably a contaminant.
Hydrogen is rather corrosive (it's the definition of an acid) and it can react with oxygen explosively. Oxygen is also corrosive, it's the second strongest elemental oxidizer. Being in contact with pure elemental hydrogen would lead to your skin falling off. Breathing pure elemental oxygen (or even molecular oxygen) would get rather dangerous in ~15 minutes I think. But wait! Oxidane, also known as H2O or most commonly was water, is comprised purely of these explosive elements. So why is it not melting my face off? Why am I not on fire right now? As a matter of fact, why does it put out fire? Because it's bonded in such a way that it isn't dangerous.
I have a point; however, I'm saying this not to accuse but to question.
My understanding is autism has an environmental factor, when limited, help to reduce the symptoms of autism. A child is born with the autistic gene regardless, but how extreme those traits present themselves at birth could be related to the environment in the womb, or luck of the draw. One thing that helps minimize autistic traits after birth is diet, is evident when a parent limits a certain food group from the diet of a child who is autistic (wheat soy, dairy, etc.) . So, to say vaccines "cause" autism seems ludicrous, but could it be an environmental factor that makes autism symptoms worst? That should be the question.
Also, one risk is brain damage although minimal it is a potential side effect of Dtap. Could the brain damage just be misdiagnosed as autism?
Yeah, I think both sides went a little extreme with their approach. Anti-vax were like, "definitely causes autism no doubt about it." And the governments been like, "you all be cray cray." And now you can't have a normal conversation, or a general worry about vaccines without sounding like a complete maniac.
The other thing is that I vaccines are no longer broken up into separate shots, and I think many people would feel more secure with that option. We did an augmented schedule for our daughter because she had a little reaction. Especially from the mumps rubella one and had a rash for about 3 week.
Ha! Fooled you I'm from the CDC! I knew you were crazy.
I'm kidding. I totally get it, and I think people have a right to raise their child the way they think is best. I do think at some age, (after toddler years when they are more developed physically and mentally) vaccination should be done, but putting it off till the child is 4-5 has a very minimal risk. The other side is that you risk your child being exposed to the disease and that could be really bad. But I get it. It's the decision a parent and only a parent can make. Don't get me wrong, I respect your decision because I've been there, it's scary, and just as I'm sure you have we weighed the pros and cons.
There is supposedly a gene test (I haven't read much on it) that can be done to see if your child is at higher risk, but I'm not sure how many doctors are aware of the test. Hell, I only know enough about it to be dangerous.
Just from the point of someone with an Autism-Spectrum Disorder, I'd say that vaccinations are worth the risk of Autism that my small amount of research has so far said isn't there, but I also recognise that I don't have full-fledged Autism (just Asperger's Syndrome) and that many people struggle much more from their ASD than I do and that choices about vaccinations should be made by a parent, not a high-school student in a country where people on the internet could believe that there are bug-sized bacteria from the reputation for dangerous wildlife.
Well that just sucks balls doesn't it. But that doesn't mean that vaccines are bad. It means that YOU (the person in question) can't handle them. Peanuts aren't bad just because little Shawniquishina here can't eat them.
Here is a good example:
If a kid doesn't have autism, eats an apple, and three years later shows signs of autism, then it's obvious that vaccines cause autism.
Thimerosal is the preservative of choice for vaccine manufacturers. First introduced by Eli Lilly and Company in the late 1920s and early 1930s, the company began selling it as a preservative in vaccines in the 1940s. Thimerosal contains 49.6 percent mercury by weight and is metabolized or degraded into ethylmercury and thiosalicylate. Mercury, or more precisely, ethylmercury, is the principle agent that kills contaminants. Unfortunately, mercury also kills much more. And I know without a doubt mercury will cause issues ...
Remove the hamster and you have what?
Autism. Every time.
I'm kidding, my ADD meds wore off about an hour ago. i'ma have to come back to your comment tomorrow.
I know that you can't believe everything you read on Wikipedia, but I feel that an article with this many citations in the introduction is reliable enough for this context.
How do you know liVing with autism is really living .it requires help almost your entire life .
Next time you post something, please state in the first segment of your comment that you wear a tinfoil hat at all times!
Methyl mercury on the other hand, which is not in Thimerosal by the way, is very dangerous.
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/thimerosal/
The funny thing is, is that there's more mercury in a tuna fish sandwich than a vaccine. Five times as much vs the flu vaccine.
http://www.fairfaxpediatrics.com/Vaccine-Myths.html
My understanding is autism has an environmental factor, when limited, help to reduce the symptoms of autism. A child is born with the autistic gene regardless, but how extreme those traits present themselves at birth could be related to the environment in the womb, or luck of the draw. One thing that helps minimize autistic traits after birth is diet, is evident when a parent limits a certain food group from the diet of a child who is autistic (wheat soy, dairy, etc.) . So, to say vaccines "cause" autism seems ludicrous, but could it be an environmental factor that makes autism symptoms worst? That should be the question.
Also, one risk is brain damage although minimal it is a potential side effect of Dtap. Could the brain damage just be misdiagnosed as autism?
The other thing is that I vaccines are no longer broken up into separate shots, and I think many people would feel more secure with that option. We did an augmented schedule for our daughter because she had a little reaction. Especially from the mumps rubella one and had a rash for about 3 week.
I'm kidding. I totally get it, and I think people have a right to raise their child the way they think is best. I do think at some age, (after toddler years when they are more developed physically and mentally) vaccination should be done, but putting it off till the child is 4-5 has a very minimal risk. The other side is that you risk your child being exposed to the disease and that could be really bad. But I get it. It's the decision a parent and only a parent can make. Don't get me wrong, I respect your decision because I've been there, it's scary, and just as I'm sure you have we weighed the pros and cons.
There is supposedly a gene test (I haven't read much on it) that can be done to see if your child is at higher risk, but I'm not sure how many doctors are aware of the test. Hell, I only know enough about it to be dangerous.
Actually, there's over one hundred studies that have found a link. But hey, keep believing what the TV says.
http://www.publichealth.org/public-awareness/understanding-vaccines/goes-vaccine/
and here's another though you'll have to do more research on each item.
http://www.informedchoice.info/cocktail.html
None of the ingredients are peanut oil. This was a false claim made by a anti-vaccine groups to scare people into not getting vaccines. But don't take my word for it here's what the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia has to say.
http://www.chop.edu/centers-programs/vaccine-education-center/vaccine-ingredients
and for a great rebuttal of the claim go here
http://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/antivaccine-lies-peanut-oil-vaccines/
Always be sure though, of the postion the source is coming from and of their credibility.