You can be overweight and take care of your body, you can have medical conditions which cause weight gain etc., and you can be skinny and live and eat like crap. Sexiness isn't one shape or one size. We shouldn't glorify unhealthy living, but we shouldn't make the false assumption that your size or appearance is automatically a consequence of your lifestyle. Each person has to prioritize and live their own lives. If you want to drink alcohol, eat junk, not exercise, or eat vegan and work out 8 hours a day it's your life and your body. Being sexy is whatever you or someone else finds sexy about you- it's not for anyone person to define.
Conditions that cause a person to become obese are extremely rare, so that is no excuse. Some conditions make you more susceptible to becoming overweight but it still can be overcome through small changes in your diet. Some people prefer fat people yea, but that's no reason to make it seem like a good thing. Obesity is dangerous as it shortens your life and makes your children more likely to be obese as well. Fat-Acceptance is Death-Acceptance.
Small changes in your diet...sounds like a simplistic answer...the problems that lead to obesity aren't simply diet, it also has psychological and neurochemical elements to it (the concept of addiction and reward system of the body) those elements have to be treated, not just a simple change in diet.
I'm obese. I also started dieting a month ago and have already lost a ton of weight. It is about small changes and having the willpower to keep to those changes.
Kurama - roughly one in twenty women - five percent - have PCOS, a condition of which a major symptom is insulin resistance and obesity. This is ONE of the obesity-causing diseases prominent in the US at this time. No, it's not rare. Oh, and it's only as low as five percent among Caucasian races. Some cultures have an incidence as high as one in ten.
Abel_hazard, I have PCOS and I'm trying to lose weight, and while I'm taking it's slow that's more of a me problem than because of the PCOS. Also, actual doctors and nutritionists and all those people who study that kind of stuff for a LIVING and went to school for it gave said over and over you CAN lose weight. Just because they have a disease that makes it HARDER doesn't mean they get to say it's impossible because of it. Most of the people complaining about it tend to lie. Hell, I can't find the post/video but there was a whole thing where a 400+ lb woman claimed to be able to do a 4 minute mile when the world record is still longer than that.
Also, race doesn't need to be brought into an issue about weight so I'm not sure your point in bringing up percentages being different among different people.
Exactly. It may be more difficult than normal, but it's still possible. And the reason it's hard to in the first place? Because they are already overweight. The more overweight you are, the harder it is to lose it. It's similar to working out. You need to be of a certain strength to do the exercises to become stronger. If you take care of yourself before you overweight then you'll find it's much easier to manage.
Also, Race can affect weight loss, but that is a minor point. Contrary to what most say, there are multiple differences between races.
Well I understand the part about different races having differences I meant more that no one asked and it also doesn't serve a purpose in what they were saying
I'm also going to add that a lot of people say they aren't losing weight because they don't see immediate results, even though you lose more " inner " fat first if that makes sense. The bigger you are the longer it's going to take to actually SEE the results because, from what I've been told, the first fat to go is the fat around the organs and places it just should not be.
So much... so little room. Firstly rare or not you don't know why any one person is overweight so regardless of how rare a condition may be you can't say a person doesn't have it without knowing- hence cannot say big can't be sexy. Secondly what people find sexy is their business. Some find objects or even amputations sexy. Should we say anyone who doesn't fit a certain standard can't be sexy? Weight loss does take time though, especially to do healthy, it's hard but then you have people who eat right and have even had stomach banding and exercise but can't get to "fit" shape. Like I said, glorifying unhealthiness isn't good but neither is shaming people. Especially when often negative emotions are behind the weight. As for "anyone can do it" anyone can do anything- and yet you take a paragon athlete and with all those living their whole life for the sport and practicing every day at a pro level, not all can reach that skill. It's almost like people are somehow.. different physically.
While I agree you don't always know what a person has, a lot of people claim things that either don't play a huge factor in gaining weight or claim they have something that their doctor has said they don't have. Yes people are entitled to liking whatever they want, you can't control if someone likes average people, bigger people, or even like that one guy who's sexually attracted to his 15 inflatable animals. But just because THEY find it sexy doesn't mean it needs to be normalized or become a non issue. If you want to sleep with someone who's 400+ lbs go ahead but that doesn't mean that they should be promoted as a beauty STANDARD just like the size 0 models shouldn't be. It creates unrealistic standards. It isn't shaming if you're just shutting people down for trying to downplay facts because of their feelings.
Also yes people are different physically but there's a difference between basic health care like good eating and some exercise vs extra for a sport because you want to go that extra mile. It's like saying " some people go to college for 8 years to get an extra degree but people who don't even graduate highschool/get a GED shouldn't be seen as lower because they're too lazy to actually finish what's seen as the most basic of tasks "
The solution to losing weight is really easy - don't let it get so far that it is too difficult. Keep yourself under control. It's easiest to stop falling down a hill after the first second than the tenth.
We SHOULD shame people. Being fat is unhealthy for yourself and your kids and the sooner they decide to change their lifestyle the better. People are different physically. Some people can lose ten pounds in a week while it may take another months to do so.
It's not like it takes effort. Losing weight is a very simple thing - people just like to make it sound difficult so they have an excuse not to do it.
The problem is that people get too comfortable. Weight loss is 90% diet. If you just ate a little less than usual you'd lose weight. It's a fact that being fat is more expensive, time consuming, and difficult than being skinny. It takes effort to overeat.
Im not here to debate my weight loss tips. Buy my book on amazon for that and 10 minute workouts for beach ready pollicis longus's. Causes of weight can be complex mental and physical factors beyond "you're lazy and eat too much." My athlete analogy shows that even among the physical best humans with all the support, time, and money, some goals aren't realistically achievable. All that doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if people want to participate in dangerous hobbies, tat up, pierce everything, you've got models and fitness gurus running around at single digit body fat, missing periods and unhealthy lean, silent steroid use, cosmetic surgery and breast augmentation, people training themselves to the point of beyond damage. They "look" healthy so we don't care? Why is one or another type of risky or unhealthy behavior "their choice" and another is worthy of shame? Why do I care how much you eat or what you do with you? If we want to "save" do so with kindness, not insults and hate.
I'm not the Bill Nye of debating. I'm not gonna smile and let you yell over me. I'm more of the Richard Dawkins and will tell you the facts.
All those things above are unhealthy to just yourself. They are by no means good and I don't support anything unhealthy, but they don't affect as many people. Obesity affects everyone near you - especially children. 48% of children from obese parents are likely to be overweight and on their way to obesity. That's an issue due to how young they are. A person who is overweight most of their entire life is less likely to try to lose weight.
It's true that those children are more likely to inherent genetics and behavior that will lead to weight gain. I believe it's likely many of the other things I listed are likely higher in children with parents who are like that too. I never said being heavy wasn't usually unhealthy. I said blanket statements can't be applied to all people nor can assumptions. Further the post isn't about health it's about what is sexy. The implication being big can't be sexy or shouldn't be. I went on to say that shaming people can work, but is shown more personally harmful and less effective than other methods. Shaming people into any body image is wrong. What would be the solution? Some people are big. There will always be big people. We can educate to risks and encourage healthy living, but should anyone that chooses to live a lifestyle outside of "socially acceptable" be the target of shame and mockery? People are free to be unhealthy as they are to be jerks. We choose for ourselves who we are.
I'm inclined towards athletic body types personally, but to each their own. The issue was never what an individual finds sexy, but the ability for a group of people to be considered attractive at all. At many points in history and even in modern cultures big is/was seen as sexy and a sign of wealth, so "when did this become sexy" by nature implies that it was not or should not be sexy to anyone.
How about instead of defining one body type as sexy, we realize that sexiness is in the eye of the beholder and stop pressuring people to like either? One person may think skinny is sexy, that's their opinion. Another may think thick is sexy, that's their opinion. How about we realize that not everyone wants the same things in a lover?
While I understand where you're coming from in saying what you may like someone else may not and you shouldn't judge people for their tastes, there's a HUGE difference in people being chubby chasers or liking more skinny girls vs. saying people who are 400lbs with mainly fat instead of much muscle are equally beautiful and deserve all of our love and respect because they " don't confirm " which is what this is talking about. Someone who's an unhealthy size DOES deserve love but they don't get to be coddled about their weight, just as someone who was underweight would deserve love but not people letting them go on unhealthy because " acceptance "
My problem wasn't with this post in particular, I'm just disappointed about the whole series of "when did this become sexier than this" memes. They put a standard of sexiness onto people that shouldn't be there, i think sexiness is a personal opinion. I agree with what you're saying about how no one should be coddled for their weight, it's just the whole line of posts such as these are so judgmental. Sorry if it seemed like I was supporting the "spoil obese people" movement, that's not what I meant at all.
(Kidding)
Also, race doesn't need to be brought into an issue about weight so I'm not sure your point in bringing up percentages being different among different people.
Also, Race can affect weight loss, but that is a minor point. Contrary to what most say, there are multiple differences between races.
I'm also going to add that a lot of people say they aren't losing weight because they don't see immediate results, even though you lose more " inner " fat first if that makes sense. The bigger you are the longer it's going to take to actually SEE the results because, from what I've been told, the first fat to go is the fat around the organs and places it just should not be.
We SHOULD shame people. Being fat is unhealthy for yourself and your kids and the sooner they decide to change their lifestyle the better. People are different physically. Some people can lose ten pounds in a week while it may take another months to do so.
It's not like it takes effort. Losing weight is a very simple thing - people just like to make it sound difficult so they have an excuse not to do it.
All those things above are unhealthy to just yourself. They are by no means good and I don't support anything unhealthy, but they don't affect as many people. Obesity affects everyone near you - especially children. 48% of children from obese parents are likely to be overweight and on their way to obesity. That's an issue due to how young they are. A person who is overweight most of their entire life is less likely to try to lose weight.