Hmmmm

No thank you is a polite way of saying no.

Yes, but the fact remains that "I don't want to" is "no," not "convince me."

Some men think they are hot enough to get it anyway, so they try. Some men don’t take the hint when they’re drunk

I don’t want to means I don’t want to, not convince me

I've said the "no, thank you" lots of times. Not once did it work. I felt like it was challenging them. I'm just being polite and nice, it's actually a disguised "no, fuck off"

I’ve gotten to the point where (if I’m in a public place) I go full bitch and turn around and ignore them. They might swear at me behind my back but it’s easier than trying to politely decline a pushy guy

I've also used the "I'm in a 3 year relationship with her"
*pulls out best friend behind my back and starts making out*
But apparently most guys don't believe in real life lesbians

I’ve never used that one for fear that they’ll be into it tbh

You're very right

"most guys don't believe in real life lesbians" - I don't know about most or a percentage but there's an astonishingly large group of men who believe lesbians just need to be properly and skillfully fornicated (and guess who's the master!) to come back on the right track, and then there's the guys who believe women only make out with each other to turn on their (male) crush and invite him to a threesome. And then there's guys like Milo Yannipoopdeck or what his name was who straight out claims lesbians don't exist.

@abel_hazard same :/
Also on a festival a dude kissed me literally out of nowhere, when I told him I was taken, that's what he said.

It's sad that it happens so often that it seems like dealing with unwanted sexual aggression becomes a life skill for most women before they even know how to do their own taxes. Men can be harassed too, and it's just as bad, but it doesn't seem to be as integrated into society on so many levels.

Sometimes I'll say I'm gay (I'm ace, so it's true that I'm not into guys) and sometimes I'll still get a "well I could change that" or "we'll see about that"

I'm fat, so there's... kind of a trade-off. I don't get hit on *as often,* but the guys who *do* hit on me are *waaaaaaay* more insulting and often creepy hard to get rid of.

It's funny how quickly a woman goes from being a "cool person to talk to" "interesting," and a perspective partner to being a person worthy of contempt and insults in some men's eyes just by showing disinterest in their genitals. While it seems quite a few are quick to feel their very interest in a woman is somehow a kindness or favor and they should be treated like heroes for it. Of course, there are those too with very "specific" characteristics they look for, a woman who occupies certain thoughts they have- and on meeting a woman like that it seems many think not only must she be interested in hearing about these ideas in explicit detail on first meeting, but she also must be interested in fulfilling these desires. Of course if she isn't, these men are quick to attribute that to some fault of hers- of course what woman in her right mind would pass up a chance to deal with all that?

it's just a dick move to think / say that every boy who starts a conversation (or try to) want everytime just to f*ck the girl.. we boys TOO want conversations and other stuff. we are not just dumb animals who can't think about other stuff than f*ck every girl we talk to.

in reallife i'm a really shy / introvert person.. and if i really grow the balls to say hi to a girl and the only answer i get is " i have a boyfriend" and then the girl turns around.. this hurts. but some girls do this.. and trust me.. after such a dickmove from a girl you don't rly want to try it again (start a conversation with a girl) if you are shy / introvert.. because this damage your self-confidence.. you don't want anything bad.. just say hi and try to start a conversation.. and then the girl do something like this.. it's just a dickmove.

I'd never do the "I have a boyfriend" thing as the first sentence I say - BUT - it's super super rare that a guy starts talking to you and really just wants a nice conversation. Like, super rare. So please try to understand us girls. Some are just fed up too, because after a while, you've encountered every technique. And yes, nice guy is one of them. That's bad for the real nice guys, but us girls do get lots of bullshit and for some it might be easier to just cut it before a conversation even starts. I never could, because I'm too nice, and often this causes a "oh, you have a boyfriend? No problem, I just wanna be friends, give me your number maybe? Just friends." yeah. No. Those never wanna be just friends. All this stuff makes us very cautious and every girl deals differently with approaches by men.

You can't argue with a boy trying so hard to play the victim. What if every "I have a bf" really means "Ugh, go away, I don't like you!"? That would be a "dick move" compared to telling it like it is? Why should girls/women start a conversation with someone they don't like because of how hard it was for the boy/man to approach her?

what's is so hard about to just say "hey, i don't want a conversation right now".. or another phrase? why just "i have a boyfriend" and then block everything which comes from a guy? i could understand if a girl really says what she means.. but if a girl acts like i mentioned above, it's just dumb & a dickmove in my eyes. girls often act like every boy they meet just want to f*ck them right on street or something. it's really weird. just because some assholes act like s*it while they are with girls, this don't means that every boy is like this. i mean.. if i try to start a conversation with a girl and she really think's "i don't like him / how he looks like".. thats okay. but then she should just say that to the boy.. and don't come up with stuff like "i have a boyfriend" or even kiss her friend and say "i'm lesbian" (a user from fs even said she do this) or some other weird shit. it's crazy with what stuff some girls come up to instead of just tell the truth..

Men upset by being brushed off- You know those sales people who call you, or try to sell things at the mall and door to door? Some of them- at least one, won't be like the others. They'll have something you actually want and isn't a total scam. So- do you listen to every single one? When you go to the mall do you stop at every stall where the salesperson call to you? When they call your phone and you pick up, do you wait and let them make their whole pitch before you tell them no? If you tell them no and they keep trying do you like that? Do you feel like you owe them an explaination? If they try to ask you why you don't want to try their amazing product- do you feel like because they put themselves out there to approach a total stranger and try to make a sale? Or is it more likely the moment it seems like a sales pitch you'll make an excuse that you don't have time, or politely say: "not interested"? Or do you "play with" these sale people or admonish them for wasting your time?

@cycy- I respect being secure enough and mature enough to take direct criticism. Considered though not everyone is. You reference other posts on this thread, if you read more you'll see women saying that men have completely disected their explainations, ignored their desires to be left alone, or out right became aggressive or just groped them anyway. Many men aren't as secure as you, many can be petty or even violent. They may take an honest comment like "you aren't my type" or "I don't think you're attractive" as a serious insult. Many women don't want to deal with the potential confrontation or even danger of that. Many just don't want to hurt a more sensitive mans feelings, but most importantly they don't owe an explaination of their feelings to a stranger or really anyone. That said, in your case take it as a sign they aren't the type of person you want in your life. No need to be upset or offended, they just don't share your world view and saved you time upfront by making it known

Removing comments because you don't like the reactions, now that's what I call a dick move

But sometimes we do actually have a boyfriend. And I was talking about this case. Not the one where it's used as a cheap excuse.

But i didnt talked about this case. I specially said that i talked about the case if a girl says this as a excuse / random to someone. If a girl really have a boyfriend, thats a whole another story.

It's not your business whether she really has a boyfriend or not. How dafuq would you know it anyway?

if she lie to me, it IS my business. if i just try to start a conversation, and the first thing she does is lie to me instead of telling me the truth (like "hey look, i don't like you / want talk with you" or anything like that).. thats a dickmove. you can't tell me that this a good behavior. it's just childish / being an asshole. you don't want anything from her.. just have a normal conversation.. and the first thing she does is lie (and thinking i want to f*ck her right now). great... not. by the way, i didn't remove any comment i posted, stop lie. thanks.

Women's experiences in public spaces are that there is a greater than 50/50 chance if you don't know them, to continue guest_'s point above, that you are yet another dick salesman, and a not-insignificant chance that you will assume that "I'm busy," or something similar, will be thoroughly ignored. They have no reason to assume that you "just want to talk," and quite frankly, your addition of the phrase "right now" doesn't give me a lot of faith that you *aren't* opening the interaction as a prelude to eventually fucking.

what is the problem to say "hey, i don't want to talk to you right now / like you. please let me alone"? if the boy then annoys you further, THEN you could get angry / do shit like "i have a boyfriend, gtfo or i slap you".. but not if a boy just come to you, and say just "hi". if someone comes to me and just say hi, i don't say "fuck off i don't want to fuck you!!!" or something like this. but most girls seems to think that every boy who talks to them want to f*ck them or annoy them.. that's just annoying / sad. you could just want to ask for a direction to some place, for whats time it is or something normal.. but no.. the girl will think you want to grope her, f*ck them, annoy them or other s*it.. even if you don't. that there are normal guys out there who just want to say "hi" and then maybe talk a few words is so unbelivable? or what? why don't give the boy first a CHANCE to be nice & just say hi to you? is it that hard to give people a chance to talk to you, without thinking [1/2]

that they want to do anything bad to you? there are normal people out there who are not total assholes.. you know? one time i walked to a girl i didn't know because i wanted to ask her for a direction because i was new in a city.. i just could say "hi.." and suddenly she said "I HAVE A BOYFRIEND!!!!" and she then turned around and walked fast away like i would be a demon or something. thats just crazy. [2/2] by the way -> my self esteem is so low, that i don't even would think about the idea that a girl would think i'm attractive.. i don't think about f*cking if i ask a girl something.. i think just "fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck just don't say anything weird / act weird".. in my inner mind, i'm scared of the situation self (talking to a girl i don't know).. in such a situation i'm not thinking about flirting or even f*cking this girl. so please.. stop try to push anything like that to me. just because there are assholes out there, you don't need to act like that.

The world is full of good people. So a scenario- you find yourself out late at night alone. You're walking back to your car from a local late night venue like a bar or club. You have $600 cash in large bills you withdrew earlier that day that you need to pay for a very complicated personal matter. A shady looking stranger approaches from behind. Do you stop or slow down to walk along with themand try to make friends with them? Too slow. They stride up to you and start talking. They ask if you have any cash on you. Do you say something like: "sorry, I only carry card" or do you say "geez. I only have $600 in large bills" and then describe your personal matter you need the money for? The first one is a lie. But are you unreasonable to want to get back to what you were doing, to try and protect yourself and not discuss your personal business and motivation with a stranger who approached you unsolicited?

@guest_
Impartial observer here, you're changing the argument.

and why you didn't think about saying to the person "hey, please. leave me alone" if she comes to you? if you don't want them near you (why ever), just say "leave me please alone". but don't come up with fantasy stuff like "i have a boyfriend" and then run away and act like the stranger who just came to you and said "hi" (nothing more!) will do something bad to you. if i'm out of the house, and someone comes to me and say "hi".. i listen to them & what they want from me. if i don't like what they want from me, i say "gtfo" or something else.. but first i give them a chance to explain what they want. i dont just yell "I HAVE A BOYFRIEND!" and run away after they just said "hi" and did nothing more. if you do this, you are just paranoid and think everyone want to do bad stuff to you. but the reality is not like that. not everyone who say "hi" will something bad from you. maybe they just need help because they are lost in a area they don't know.. like i was.. or other stuff.

@famousone- I don't see how?

Also, just because you're not already in the argument? Hardly makes you impartial.

@cycy- comendable civics. So what we have established is trust is based on experience and threshold to risk. Your level of trust in our example is higher than mine, you've been lost and I've been robbed several times before. So- the lie. The argument of the "white lie" is an unsettled one I'll leave alone. Let's look at it differently: what is the effect? On your end you discover they are either in a relationship, or a liar. Useful information either way that could change things for you. Now assuming they are lying- one could see it as arrogant to assume someone is attracted to you just because they approach you. Stories from women in this very post suggest that how one feels about their attractiveness doesn't seem to have a notable effect on the unwanted advances of men after only one thing. So they have what? Deprived themselves of having you in their life? Could we not call it equally arrogant to assume their life would be made better by talking to you?

The "problem" here is not that they don't want me in their life. The problem i have is that they assume that i want to flirt or that i'm being sexual interessted in them or want to do something bad.. Just based on the fact that i walked to them and said one single word.. "hi". If you want that a guy let you alone, you can say this to him. But if you begin to make things up and tell lies just because someone said hi to you, thats just not okay if you ask me. Just because some guys are jerks, it's not okay to act like every guy is a total asshole. It's okay if you just say "nope", but if you begin to lie or assume things about me without even talking to me.. Thats just crazy imho. I could want to just ask you "do you know where i can find xyz?".. Do know it? No. Then why you act like this? Assuming every guy is the same is the same like i would say every girl do this stuff.. But not every girl do this. Just some girls.. And thats weird / dumb in my mind. This all started like 1-2 year

Ago.. And it gets worse every day. Some girls even have sex with guys and after they finished, they say "i changed my mind. I don't wanted to have sex.and because i changed my mind, i say this guy raped me". Even if they both wanted to have sex. Such stuff is just crazy..

As I suggested already, your life is apparently centering around your efforts to be a victim. You just want to say "Hi" to girls for no underlying reason whatsoever? Yeah, keep telling yourself that but don't insult half of humanity plus men with a brain with this rubbish. But you probably don't believe that yourself anyway. This girls shouting "rape" after they "changed their minds" after consensual sex shows where you're probably coming from: you're a whiny, lying little bitch going his own way. Have you read the female commenters here? Are you aware of the many, many women sharing their experiences with men over the last "like 1-2 years"? Obviously not, that's all just a plot by feminazis to block your cock, no, sorry, of course not, you're just approaching girls to..... yeah, to do what exactly? You never elaborated that... just be a nice guy probably. Lying little bitch.

While I agree with much halfdead has said I will take another path. If your problem is that she is making assumptions you have bigger problems. People make many assumptions about each other daily as part of normal life. You yourself have assumed that she wanted to talk to you at all. To think they are lying you must make an assumption. Without in depth knowledge of their life or the agreement between them and a partner nothing but their direct assertion they are lying is absolute proof. You say that the issue isn't that she didn't want to talk to you, it's that she lied or made assumptions- these both still make the entire interaction about you, your wants, needs, and opinions on how a woman should behave towards you. You say that women should ignore the fact some men can be jerks and interact with a random male as though he is not, but then use the fact some women "falsely" claim rape as an incrimination and sign that things are "getting worse everyday." I think your logic is flawed.

"You yourself have assumed that she wanted to talk to you at all." no, i didn't. i just said "hi" because i wanted to ask for a direction to somewhere. if she don't want to talk to me, she should just say exactly this, but instead she lied & acted like i'm some weirdo asshole who want to do bad stuff to her. the fact that the FIRST thing she say is "I HAVE A BOYFRIEND!" if i just say hi, let it look like she think every boy who talk to her will something sexual / love from her. that some guy could just want to ask for a direction to some place or other stuff is not even in her mind. just "boy say hi = he want sex / love from me". that's my problem. not that she don't want to talk to me or other stuff. [1/2]

+ i didn't want that girls / womans ignore the fact that some people are assholes. i want that girls don't act like every guy / stranger is a asshole. i want that the first thing she does is not act like the stranger who say hi to her is a asshole / want something bad from her without knowing or talked him / her. she can't know what the reason is for the "hi", but she acting like she already know that this stranger who talks to her want's bad stuff from her. if she does this with every person who talk to her, she can't get anywhere in life. she can't meet new people etc.. she is just blocking every communication because she think "boy = bad". THAT is the problem i have with the whole concept. make assumtions without even knowing the stranger / let him talk first (and tell her what he want). [2/2]

p.s: i mentioned the false claim of rape because this is for me another "weird behavior" i saw from some girls. it's just another weird thing i don't understand in the behavioir from girls. i mean.. why acting like this? can we not just accept the fact that not every stranger is the same, and that every stranger want different stuff from you (which don't need to be bad stuff)? if i want just to ask for a direction, and the first answer to a "hi" i get is "I HAVE A BOYFRIEND" and then the girl is acting like i put my pants down in front of her (she run away etc.) .. thats just weird. @halfdeadhammerhead you still don't understand that i don't want anything sexual / lovish from a girl if i want to ask for a direction because i'm lost in a new place.. if a girl then acts like this, it's weird. nothing more. this is no cock-block, because the intention of me don't even had something to do with love or sex. i just wanted to know where i can find the train. understand this already god damn.

@halfdeadhammerhead i don't understand why you want to push the "cycy is a asshole, he is just mad because he gets cock-blocked" thing on me. can you please stop that? i told several times that this is not the reality. you can't get "cock blocked" if you start a conversation without having in mind to flirt / wanting sex. if i'm lost in a place and just want to find home, the last thing i think about is talking to random girls and flirt with them to f*ck them. sorry to kill your world view about me but, it's really getting annoying now. stop this bullshit. thanks. exactly the stuff you try to do is the thing which is weird. you try to push the "boy=asshole" on me. stop it. you even lie and say i remove comments to push me in a wrong light infront of others (even if i'm not removed any comment the last few days). you're just a asshole. stop this please.

So let's examine this again- YOU want directions, but are upset for two reasons. The first is that a total stranger didn't give you what you wanted because you don't have a map, a gps, and it was easier for you to ask her instead of finding someone like a police officer or even a customer/guest service representative- and that she is limiting her life by not being open to conversations with strangers. The common thread here is still you being upset by a strangers life choices. Maybe she has a full social life and isn't interested in meeting any new people? That's her choice. You like meeting new people, she doesn't. She's not obligated to give you directions, and it's just as rude for her to brush you off as it is for you to ask a stranger minding their own business for directions. Was she wearing a shirt that said "local" or "tour guide"? How do you know she even has directions to where you are going? More importantly- if all she said is "I have a boyfriend" and all you wanted is

Directions, what stops you from saying "Oh, I'm sorry, I was just looking for directions"? I think "acting like you pulled your pants down" is a little dramatic. I think most women wouldn't stand there if a random man came up and dropped his pants and say "I have a boyfriend." I think they may have a stronger reaction. She acted like you're a man, she's a woman, and she isn't in the mood to talk or meet anyone. You don't know she was lying about having a boyfriend, but yes- she assumed you were trying to hit on her, and you assumed she was the public directory, you both assumed wrong I guess, and at that point you gotta move on.

1) i'm not mad because a stranger don't help me. i'm mad because this stranger is acting like i'm would want to f*ck her just because i said "hi". if she just don't want to help, she can just tell me that. easy as that. if i'm lost, i ask the first stranger i can find. if this is a girl, why is this a problem? do you want to say i'm not allowed to ask girls for directions anymore..because.. they are girls? or what?
2) like i said. if a girl don't want meet new people, talk to me or other stuff.. thats fine. then she can say "no" and thats okay. but not act like i would want do bad stuff to her (or begin lie). if she don't know the direction to somewhere i ask, thats fine too. whats so hard about TALK with people instead of acting strange (telling lie's, running away and yell i have a bf etc)? is it this hard nowadays to TALK to people and TELL what you think? it's called communication guest_ . it's a normal thing on this world. if you want / think something, tell this to people so 1/

they know what's up.

please think about it.. if you walk around, and someone walk to you and say "hi". what do you do? begin to run as fast you can away and yell "i have a bf / gf!!!"? no? why? because this is strange. you could let the stranger talk first, or say "no" or something other. but don't act like this.

"what stops you from saying "Oh, I'm sorry, I was just looking for directions"?" <-- the fact that the girl is RUNNING AWAY FROM ME BECAUSE I SAID "hi" ! that's the problem here. she is blocking every further conversation because she think "boy talk to me = bad stuff happens..so i run away"

Lastly- if you are in a new strange place and finding the women there act different than you're used to, I have a few suggestions. It's hard being in a new place. So observe. Start to notice places and conditions in which people and women especially seem open to talking to strangers. Start to get an idea of the types of people and places that are more likely to help give you good directions or conversation. Very importantly as you may have noticed here- learn why the women in this place act that way. Get to understand the reasons behind it so you know what to avoid, and can be genuinely sympathetic and show you aren't just looking for sex. Learn that some situations make most women uncomfortable and don't put them in uncomfortable positions. You can't expect strangers to cater to you. as you see here they don't have to because you're the one that wants something so you must be the one to meet on their terms, and them yours if they want something from you other than to leave them alone.

but it's still strange if you ask me. if it would be at night.. okay. but not while mid in the city at a normal day without anything to fear near this place (no "bad" location where they often steal stuff or other bad things) . it happend not just one time, some friends from me experienced the same with other places (different city's) and times. i don't think that this behavior is bound to a specific place or time because i know people who experienced the same stuff. and because this, i too think it's not just me looking / acting weird.

you can't tell me that guys now are not allowed anymore to talk to girls for normal purposes because the girl could fear we want to do bad stuff to her.. if girls really think that every stranger / guy who talk's to them want bad stuff.. thats just paranoid. sorry.

@halfdeadhammerhead downvote every of my comments don't change anything

1 in 5 women in the US report being raped each year. Report. The actual number is thought to be much higher. That's just rape, not sexual assault, murders, robberies, or other assaults. There's a 20%+ chance a woman will be accosted in her life, with the number one perpetrators being male. If being weary of those odds is paranoid you're either brave to the point of wrecklessness, or you're bad at math. I'm from a major city in the western US but from my experiences in most cities I've been to around the country I can say it's generally considered weirder to talk to a stranger unless you're in a social situation or being served. Strangers who talk to you usually either want money, something else from you, or are trouble. If you can understand this the mystery will be solved for you. And yes- some people are just jerks, or more easily frightened. It's their life- how much they value it and wether they think small talk is worth their safety is their business.

1) i'm from germany, not US. so this statistic is not really going anywhere in this topic because it don't happend to me in the US (it happend to me in "Köln" and my friends in other city's) but in germany. here in germany like 80-90% of the strangers are really nice to each other. you don't get raped every 1/5 cases or something high like that. if this would be the case, okay. but it's not like that here in germany (specially not in Köln).
2) i didn't say that there a no strangers out there who maybe want bad stuff from other people. just that you should not act like EVERY stranger will something bad from you.
like i said - if a stranger walks to you, and you don't want to have to do anything with him.. say "hey, look. please let me alone" or something like that. thats totally fine to do.
i just can't understand why some girls act like this. if they would let the stranger explain whats the reason is why he came to them.. but no. instantly they yell "i have a boyfriend!" [1/2]

question to you @guest_ -> what YOU would do if some stranger would came to you while daytime and say just "hi" ? [2/2]

That one in five statistic doesn't account for the fact that the people conducting the poll considered unwittingly hearing dirty jokes to count as rape.

@famousone- as said in my post- rape. Not harassment. The definition of rape on a state level varies widely, but almost uniformly rape requires at least one of:
- penetration
- forced sexual act through either use of threat, violence, force, subversion, incapacitation or administration of such means to reduce or alter perception and decision making, rendering a person unconscious, or other forms of express or implied coercion.
So you may rest safely in the knowledge that overhearing lewd sexual jokes or seeing errant pornography are still harassment if the necessary conditions are met and not rape.

@cycy- Germany! Ah. Yes. In Germany only about 8,000 rapes get reported a year. Of course- the rest of the developed world and most of Europe consider German rape laws narrow and insufficient. Marital rape wasn't a crime in Germany until 1997- if you were married and forced your spouse to have sex, even using violence to do so it wasn't legally rape. European humanitarian bodies report much higher figures. For Europe in general rape isn't 1/5- it's 1/3.-1/4 so instead of 20% it's between 30-35%. In Germany the only 1/5 are the 1/5 women surveyed who report that they have been touched sexually by coworkers. So while we could argue all day about the numbers, let's just agree that a lot more women are being raped than should be? Now I know that some of those figures are for all of Europe. But let's remember these women could come from anywhere in Europe. I regret to inform you women around the world face rape and violence, it's not just America.

question: how does yelling "I HAVE A BOYFRIEND" help preventing rape? i mean the whole concept of rape IS that someone act AGAINST your will. do you think that yelling at someone will stop them from rape you? i don't know how this would help in such a case.. i don't think it will.

if someone want's to rape you in mid city with 100 of people around.. they will do it anyway. even if you yell at them " i have a boyfriend".. (yell "HELP" would be better)

As you point out in many of your replies- "Help" is a very extreme and premature reaction most would say is only warranted when one feels immediate danger. If I tell you "I have a boyfriend" it is less potentially insulting than "don't talk to me" or "go away" and hence a "safer" phrase. If you go away I know I am likely safe in that moment. If you do not- the next words and actions you take will give me an indication of your intent, and as the situation evolves I can respond in what I feel is appropriate fashion. The first step to most rapes or assaults is to lull the victim into a sense of security, lure them to a more convenient location, or distract them as to gain an element of surprise/be be able to incapacitate them or administer an agent for later incapacitation and strike when opportune later.

That said- since when has fear been purely logical? Fear by its nature is not only largely irrational but also causes irrational action. Also in answer to your question about a guy with dynamite- it's highly situational. Having not been in that situation anything I say is bullshit. You never know how you'll react until you're there, even with much training you just have better odds. That said my first preference would be to run. If the terrain and other factors made me think I had a good chance of making it out of blast range, and there were physical obstructions and minimal potential shrapnel to block the blast and stop him from throwing it that would be my first choice- but it also depends on his distance from me before I notice the dynamite. Second choice would be to attempt to incapacitate him. It would need to be very close distance, and I'd have to either think running was less likely to succeed or have a reason I couldn't run- or something in need of protecting. But who knows?

so you want to say, girls fear guys who talk to them (or just say "hi")? really? come on..
guys are normal humans, not monsters you need to fear.

p.s: if you just say in a normal voice "hey look i have a boyfriend" thats okay. this is not what i'm talking about. but if you suddenly yell at me "I HAVE A BOYFRIEND" without a reason (i just said "hi", nothing more).. thats the part where it's weird.

Is it weird? Hell man, we live in 2017. They sell cloned meat at the store and popular humor revolves around suicide and random words printed on badly drawn pictures. People do stuff we wouldn't do. They have their reasons and we may or may not agree. We can try to understand as best we can, we can try to be accommodating, but they aren't obligated to explain it to us, they aren't obligated to talk to us or to behave in a way that we agree with. If they aren't breaking the law they can be weird, they can be jerks, they can like or dislike people and they can tell them that in whatever way they like. We aren't responsible for their behavior and can't control it. All we can do is live our own lives as best we can. So if you can't make people act how you want- assume they will act like a fool- if they do you will not be disappointed, if they don't you'll be pleasantly surprised. Rule #1: Always set things up so you can't lose. If you break rule #1 that's on you.

"We can try to understand as best we can" <-- that's what i try to do. but the arguments do not sound rly like a proper reason to fear guys and yell at them if you ask me.. some guys would even say "crazy b*tches" to such girls if they would act like this.

"If they aren't breaking the law they can be weird, they can be jerks, they can like or dislike people and they can tell them that in whatever way they like." <- yes, they can. but it don't change the fact that i think this is a weird & crazy behavior to do if just a guy say "hi" and do nothing more. don't understand me wrong, i don't say every girl is like that.. most of them are not. but some are.

okay. well, anyway. i want to thank you that you took the time to have this conversation with me @guest_ . even if we are not sharing the same opinion on this topic, i really liked this conversation (the conversation on my posting we had too). thanks & have a good night :)! it's 02:41am here in germany, i think i now gonna sleep a few hours :) greetings from germany & thanks again.

edit: just to let you know, my other post got removed by an admin because it did get to much reports, reason: "communication with other user" (i didn't even posted it to communicate with the specific user, but meh). i didn't removed it by myself.

Sorry for the late response, I was driving home from work. Please do not misunderstand- I'm not invalidating your opinion as you are entitled to it. Merely offering some potential view points. Logic is a fine thing but human beings do not follow logic- least of all when it comes to our emotions or when we feel threatened. Fear is illogical by nature. We can prepare and take preventative action to the fullest, and beyond that things happen or do not, to fear death for instance makes no sense. You cannot avoid it. Yet so many do. Either way have a good night.