Depending on the cause, some people who are "fat" cannot help it, it can be caused by a number of health factors. While everyone who smokes not only intentionally chose to smoke, they actively continue to. Now, I am NOT including the people who eat 3 hamburgers and wash it down with a super size diet Coke in that. Also, someone could have drastically changed their lifestyle and still appear fat either because they have platoed in their weight loss or they have so much excess skin.
I have issues when I see people fat shaming someone who is fat but is trying to do something out it like walking or running. Plus, when you're fat, everyone judges you when you eat no matter what you're eating. You could be eating the healthiest food available and people will give you a hard time about it. Maybe you haven't eaten any junk food for a month and it's your friend's birthday so you have a piece of cake and people will make comments saying that maybe you shouldn't eat the cake. Thing is, you have to eat to survive.
I agree. And the opposite is true to. "Skinny" doesn't automatically equal healthy living. I've known skinny people who primarily ate fast food and junk like that, but rarely gained any weight b/c that's just how their bodies worked.
Also, don't judge someone for their size when you don't know their journey. That "fat" person might be half the size they once were, might be exercising regularly, etc and doing what they can.
It depends on whether or not the person who is overweight is making meal decisions for anyone else in their family, particularly children, and WHY they're overweight to begin with. If it's unhealthy eating, there is a decent chance they'll be stocking more unhealthy foods in the house and serving those, or snacking on them after meals. Also, social snacking is a phenomenon that exists. Possibly a left-over survival trait, where-in people are far more likely to engage in snacking when someone around them is eating. I'm not advocating fat shaming or anything, just saying unhealthy eating and overeating can be "contagious" in it's own way
What behavior can’t be said to be contagious, especially in a situation where one person has power or influence over an other? It’s far more likely that a child will pick up any type of behavior a parent exhibits compared to a child not exposed to that at home be it good or bad. That opens some dangerous doors. We all agree obesity is a potential health risk. So if we extend the idea that an obese parent is likely to have obese children, we have by extension decided that parent is putting their child’s health at risk no? So then, what does society do when a child is being endangered by a parent? How do we quantify that? What’s the measuring stick, the qualifiers, the remedy, how far do we go into a parent child relationship and make determinations about what behaviors a parent has that can effect a child’s health, and how do we monitor and enforce that a parent doesn’t do this? You can’t just say “don’t beat your kids.” You need ways to monitor, prevent, and if it does happen- remedy.
Short of government approved meal plans, or government supplied or regulated meals approved for children, government enforced or applied mandatory activity periods, weigh ins, physicals- because you can still eat like crap and not be obese. You an have poor nutrition or clogged arteries and show no signs- how do we act on that? Awareness? Most people asides TV doctor guests know being obese is unhealthy, junk food is unhealthy. They are aware. Many people like those in these very threads are obese despite eating healthy or eating so LITTLE that it is unhealthy. So obesity isn’t always evidence of junk eating. Then add that we have kids in America that can’t get enough food and we can’t even figure out how to make sure they get enough food which seems simple enough to give someone any food compared to making sure someone eats healthy food.
Taking up two seats with fat and only paying for one seat is the equivalent of putting your bag in a seat so someone cant sit there but not paying for it.
You use two seats you pay for two seats what is so "prejudice" about that?
How is someone who only takes up one seat and pays for only that seat "privileged"?
I'm not disputing that. I'm saying being around a fat person won't cause obesity related illness to the bystander. Being around a smoker can cause smoking related illness to the bystander. Hence the difference in reaction.
Also ALOT of medications can cause weight gain, as well as psychological problems. And I specifically said I wasn't referring to people who simply over eat.
Eating a recommended diet and more physical activity when dealing with medications and psychological problems that cause weight gain can prevent obesity. Diet and exercise also helps said psychological problems.
But if the condition that requires medication prevents or seriously limits the amount of exercise the person can do that isn't very helpful. It also depends on what constitutes a "recommended" diet, on multiple levels. There are numerous factors at play, including price of food, ability to prepare the foid and whether they are the only one they are preparing that food for. A single mother with severe health issues isn't going to prepare completely separate neals for herself and her family, its just not feasible. But even eating a healthy balanced diet doesn't guarantee they are going to return to a healthy body weight without surgical intervention, if that's even an option.
People only care when you stand on a soap box and talk down to people you know little or nothing about. When the only time or relationship you’ve had or are likely to have with that person or complete stranger is to care just enough to tell them they’re fat. What’s their real name? Do they have kids? How was their day? When’s their birthday? You don’t know them well enough to know that, but well enough to suddenly be concerned for their health? If you tell your sibling constructively and respectfully that your concerned about their weight- no ones likely to care, save they may take it badly. It’s when you preach to the world the “evil of obesity” that people feel the need to tell you to come down from mount Olympus and let the mortals be. It’s in the tone, not a tone of caring but of anger or hate or disgust. As for smoking, no one cares when you tell a stranger not to smoke because smoking doesn’t just hurt them or the people in their life. It hurts anyone exposed to their behavior.
As someone with 30.0 BMI (Obesity starts at 30- 5'10 and 210 pounds), it is unhealthy. I eat well and healthfully, so I'm better off than others, but obesity will kill you. It'll probably kill me as well because I don't put in quite enough effort for it. To be fair to myself, eating quite little and skipping 2/3 meals and only eating a small dinner still made me gain a bit so I've just kinda gave up a bit. I didn't let myself go though, just not really fighting it like I could. People don't realize that the weight is a drain on your body and hurts you. If you eat well it will be less of an effect but it's still there
It’s a cumulative struggle. People who have never been overweight cant understand the physical and mental changes. The body adapts to holding and gaining more, at the same time, oxygen intake decreases, energy levels plummet. Hormones that help one be happy and active and fot drop while hormones that make it easier to be lathargic and depressed and store fat increase. Joints and tissues carry more weight so high impact exercises like running or squats which are most effective for health can cause serious lasting injury. Stressed circulatory systems make intense exercise potentially deadly and certainly difficult. About 2.5-4lbs weight loss a week is healthy max for most. Lodi g large amounts of weight requires a calorie deficit. Most people should keep to at least 1000cal a day, but going much under won’t help a person lose much more and certainly not healthily without medical supervision. Keep fighting the fight and don’t give up. Best of luck.
I've been struggling with weight loss myself. I've learned that skipping meals and only eating a small dinner causes your body to go into starvation mode thereby making your body hold onto every calorie that it can. Only sharing in case in helps you with your journey. :)
Yea, I know of the starvation thing, it wasn't a long lasting thing. At the time I had been gaining every day regardless of everything so I tried for a little while eating less, and even the early days before starvation mode could even take place (I believe it takes a bit of time before the body is like "I'm starving!") and it still didn't work- it didn't go up at first though so I guess that's a bonus. I knew trying it that it would eventually start getting worst because of body starvation, I had close family members deal with that both voluntarily and involuntarily, and I knew that it wasn't the healthy choice, I was just kinda desperate to see if something worked y'know. But I'll just keep doing my thing (not starving) and hope for the best I guess, better to be healthy and chubby than ill and thin.
Probably don’t tell anyone how to live... unless you yourself are living some kind of completely healthy perfect lifestyle. We all have a vice. For some it’s food, others alcohol, cigarettes, the list goes on. I’ve learned to just mind my business. Aside from this right here that is, giving my unwarranted opinion to strangers on the internet.
Also, don't judge someone for their size when you don't know their journey. That "fat" person might be half the size they once were, might be exercising regularly, etc and doing what they can.
You use two seats you pay for two seats what is so "prejudice" about that?
How is someone who only takes up one seat and pays for only that seat "privileged"?