Rape kink is a thing, a strange thing but still
But I also fancy murdering people brutally pretty usual, you don't see me going around with my knives, do you?
There's a lot of theories behind rape fantasies, and not all of them are sex related. For some people it's a kink, and as long as no one's getting hurt, then to each their own. For others, as a seperate issue, it's literally just a thought that occurs to them, no different (imo) to people imaging stepping in front of traffic, defending themselves from an assailant, falling off a cliff/down the stairs, or any other situation.
I think in this scenario where people get confused is because women sometimes experience physical arousal and adrenaline while thinking about rape, and so people think this means they must be turned on by rape. I think people fail to take into account that a lot of time, for women, physical arousal is as much a defence mechanism as it is anything else. It happens in PART to help protect the body from damage. For an unpleasant comparison, it's not entirely different from when something gets caught in your eye. Your eye immediately begins to water.
Your mouth may start to water when you start thinking about food, which is the generation of saliva to help prepare to aid in digesting the food.
Adrenaline, similarily, if you see someone come into a bank late at night with a dark hoodie pulled up your brain may instantly start wondering "is he here to rob the place? Is he going to hurt someone? Do I need to do anything?" Even if the man does nothing but withdraw cash and leave, it's likely your body will be a lot more on edge, adrenaline pumping, ready to spring into action. Does this mean you're excited about the idea of being robbed? You're looking forward to a fight that might kill you? Or is it simply the body's way of preparing for a potential scenario to the best of it's ability?
Granted, this is mostly conjecture on my part. And, again, some people are genuinely turned on by rape fantasies.
But for the others, I think it's an insanely difficult and confusing issue for them, and they often end up getting and feeling unnecessarily shamed simply because their body is doing *something* and therefore they must be held accountable
1. No one claims rape is a modern invention or problem.
2. What's considered provocative or outright scandalous clothing has changed drastically over the years. Trying to draw a baseline that would apply to different centuries is stupid.
3. The clothing, rape link is brought up far, far more by people trying to "debunk" or challenge the idea than people claiming it's a factor. It's become more of a strawman than anything.
4. When people do bring up clothing and behavior in relation to rape, they're not saying anyone deserves it because of the way they were dressed or behaving, or that those things caused the rape. They simple mean that certain clothing or behavior could possibly draw the wrong kind of attention from the wrong type of person. Just like a sick baby zebra off on its own would draw the attention of a lion more than a healthy baby zebra in among a herd. It's a survival thing, not a blame thing.
The baby zebra analogy falls rather flat because the zebras are all dressed the same. The one thing that rings true in that analogy is that being alone can and likely will increase the odds of someone being attacked.
I am going to talk exclusively about male rapists looking for female victims here, and mostly in a scenario where the interaction begins in like a club or such, so bear that in mind.
Rapists are predators. And, at their core, almost every predator in existence has one thing in common: they are opportunistic. This is why clothing matters only in so far as if the rapist has any way of identifying you as female, you are a potential target.
The ONLY way to avoid this is to basically become Mulan and dress and act entirely like a male to the point the rapist never catches on that you are female, and therefore fails to classify you as a potential sexual target. This, however, also requires behavioural changes on top of what attire you choose to wear. You'd have to adjust the way you walk (men and women do have slightly different gaits), adjust the pitch of your voice and even the words you say, adjust who you allow to be near you. And since you never know who a rapist will be (it's often someone the victim already knows), this will pretty much be the way you have to live your life.
Most people can agree that this would not be a practical, preferable, or even entirely possible way to live.
Is it possible that wearing an extremely tight red miniskirt is more likely to get eyes on you? Yes. But at the end of the night, a lot of rapists are going to look for the female who goes off on her own somewhere. Whether she's wearing a gstring, or a camouflage grey mumu, if she goes down the alley alone, he will pick her over the ones staying with the "herd."
This is also ignoring the possibility that the rapist has a "type." Which many of them often seem to.
It's all about the fashion of the era. In every era, there was something a woman could do to be considered "provocative" whether it be wearing a corset, etc.
I get the point but saying rape is everything about the rapists is little misleading. You aren’t a rapist until you commit rape. There was no basketball until someone played basketball.
Assuming this can happen without it devolving into an all out flame war on anyone's part, I'm going to risk asking you to elaborate on what you're trying to say, scat. I'm not sure if you're saying there's more to the people who commit rape than just being a rapist or if you're saying something else altogether
But I also fancy murdering people brutally pretty usual, you don't see me going around with my knives, do you?
I think in this scenario where people get confused is because women sometimes experience physical arousal and adrenaline while thinking about rape, and so people think this means they must be turned on by rape. I think people fail to take into account that a lot of time, for women, physical arousal is as much a defence mechanism as it is anything else. It happens in PART to help protect the body from damage. For an unpleasant comparison, it's not entirely different from when something gets caught in your eye. Your eye immediately begins to water.
Adrenaline, similarily, if you see someone come into a bank late at night with a dark hoodie pulled up your brain may instantly start wondering "is he here to rob the place? Is he going to hurt someone? Do I need to do anything?" Even if the man does nothing but withdraw cash and leave, it's likely your body will be a lot more on edge, adrenaline pumping, ready to spring into action. Does this mean you're excited about the idea of being robbed? You're looking forward to a fight that might kill you? Or is it simply the body's way of preparing for a potential scenario to the best of it's ability?
But for the others, I think it's an insanely difficult and confusing issue for them, and they often end up getting and feeling unnecessarily shamed simply because their body is doing *something* and therefore they must be held accountable
2. What's considered provocative or outright scandalous clothing has changed drastically over the years. Trying to draw a baseline that would apply to different centuries is stupid.
3. The clothing, rape link is brought up far, far more by people trying to "debunk" or challenge the idea than people claiming it's a factor. It's become more of a strawman than anything.
4. When people do bring up clothing and behavior in relation to rape, they're not saying anyone deserves it because of the way they were dressed or behaving, or that those things caused the rape. They simple mean that certain clothing or behavior could possibly draw the wrong kind of attention from the wrong type of person. Just like a sick baby zebra off on its own would draw the attention of a lion more than a healthy baby zebra in among a herd. It's a survival thing, not a blame thing.
I am going to talk exclusively about male rapists looking for female victims here, and mostly in a scenario where the interaction begins in like a club or such, so bear that in mind.
Rapists are predators. And, at their core, almost every predator in existence has one thing in common: they are opportunistic. This is why clothing matters only in so far as if the rapist has any way of identifying you as female, you are a potential target.
Most people can agree that this would not be a practical, preferable, or even entirely possible way to live.
This is also ignoring the possibility that the rapist has a "type." Which many of them often seem to.