I think the point was meant to be women who have never been pregnant at all, such as the ones in the pic (who LIKELY haven't been pregnant based on their implied age).
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A lot of women who have emergency c-sections can have worse labours than women who give birth normally simply due to complications. Women who have planned c-sections (depending on the reason) probably won't have as much pain, but as you say they still go into labour, which is far from a walk in the park.
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... or so I'm told.
I would also like to add the thought that perhaps "pain of child birth" might stretch to pain of monthly prep our bodies do and all parts associated with having the child as well as complications. I mention this as someone with endometriosis which is where the female organ lining attaches to or grows into other organs 1/10 women have it and many have been hospitalized for it including myself. Our bodies just having the organs can mimic the pain with certain conditions. (Side story my great aunt had kids and she said it was over quicker and less painful than her period)
I had a friend who's first and only labor lasted a grand total of 45 mins, she pushed twice and he was out. Mine on the other hand, lasted over 27 hours, long enough for the epidural to wear off and the second to not take for some reason. After all that time I ended up needing a csection which they almost did with me unmedicated because they didn't believe me when I insisted the epidural had worn off and I could feel everything. Fun times.
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true. and woman will never understand the pain you have as a guy when someone kick you in the balls.
Sort of. Iirc the vulva/vaginal area have more nerve endings in general, and blunt force trauma can be VERY painful (there was a study that found women kicked there experienced pain on par with men being kicked in the balls). There have been numerous cases of women being hospitalized and going into shock from being kicked or hit there.
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...that being said, it's generally a lot harder to get access to do any kind of significant damage there than it is to guys' genitals, since guys are way more exposed. Guys also are more likely to have side effects like their testicles rupturing and such, which is a whole new bag of fun on it's own
trust me, no one wants to get kicked into the balls. sure, childbirth is sure really painfull.. but getting kicked in the balls a 100 times? that's just painfull asf. when you get kicked into the balls you feel a lot of pain, your stomach hurts (sometimes for hours) and you can get more pain in other regions of your body except your balls. the pain on the balls self is not the worst, more the feeling of pain inside your stomach & in a region inside your body between your balls and stomach. it's like nerves inside your body sending pain signals. trust me, no one want's that. as a child a a**hole kicked me into my balls and everytime i then moved my body it did hurt in the region mentioned above. it's just satans work that humans have nerves in this region :x I'm sure childbirth is too rly painfull.. but i only can talk about what i experienced myself..childbirth is not one of these.. sooo.. no. 100x.kicks into the balls is rly bad. i think this even would result in longtime issues.
Why a 100 times tho? Like, "childbirth is painful, but being tortured to death with a variety of implements coated in lemon juice and salt would be worse." Getting kicked in the balls and giving birth are both arguably part of the normal human experience, but getting kicked a 100 times?
@cycy you are comparing getting kicked in the balls, which the pain is relatively short lived, to having your body wracked continuously with increasingly powerful muscular contractions over the course of hours and even days. Culminating in either pushing something the size of a turkey out of a hole roughly the size of an orange or being cut open and having a kid pulled out of you, then sewn back up and still having to take care of said tiny human within an hour or so of major surgery. And that's not including the 10 months of massive upheaval your body goes through leading up to that carnival of fun. Yeah, those are so comparable. Tell me again how man guys have died from getting kicked in the balls?
Just to clarify-- I don't think cycy was saying getting kicked in the balls once is on par with the pain of child birth. They just said women won't know that pain. Technically correct, since we do not have testicles.
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That said, being kicked in the balls 100 times consecutively may well be on par with the pain of childbirth... there's really no way of knowing. The testicles would almost certainly rupture before reaching that mark, and the victim would almost certainly die in the process. It's also possible for them to die from a single kick, but EXTREMELY less common than women dying in child birth.
And for more notes on the other side of the coin for the fun and games that are childbirth:
-pereniums (the skin between your asshole and your vagina/balls) often tears during childbirth, and the tears can extend back into the rectum. They can also tear at the front of the vagina
-pelvic bones can fracture or break (by accident or by force.. It used to be somewhat common practice in some parts of the world)
-eclampsia, which is a condition caused by high blood pressure that can lead to seizures and death
-Hemorrhaging
All of which can have long term consequences, and do not include consequences for the baby
(A vacuum extraction, for example, can lead to fractures in the fetus' skull)
@xvarnah read his first comment, he is clearly referring to a single act, it was another commenter who mentioned the 100 times part. But you are right, both about the consequences of repeated blows to the scrotum as well as the many little known risks in child birth.
@celticrose yes I know, I was addressing two different sections of the comments with mine-- The first being he never actually claimed being kicked in the balls once was on par with childbirth, the second being people (which cycy was part of, but did not initiate) talking about whether being kicked 100 times WOULD be on par with it, which is why I clearly said "I don't think cycy was saying getting kicked in the balls once is on par with the pain of child birth. They just said women won't know that pain." And then made the distinction of mentioning "100 times" in the next paragraph of my comment.
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to make it clear. i never said / thought that getting kicked in the balls a single time hurt as much as childbirth. i just wanted to say that getting kicked 100 times in the balls too hurt's really much & that no one should experience this.. not even as an alternative to childbirth. childbirth hurts sure really much.. but getting kicked a 100 times in the balls is too painfull.. i don't wish such a thing to anyone. not unmentioned should be by the way that the sperm production can have issues / problems from getting kicked into the balls & there will be sure other issues involed with it. it's not rly a "good alternative" if you ask me. better option would be to just don't have pain while childbirth.. not getting kicked 100 times into the balls instead. both options (balls kicked & childbirth) are painfull. and feeling pain is sh*tty^^
I never heard about death from childbirth pain shock. But kick into the ball (or extra freezing, for example, sinking in cold water) cans lead to this. Also during childbirth woman's body produces a lot of painkillers. Many women (especially from East) give birth without terrific pains and in short time. And modern medicine allows to give birth with anesthesia.
So because you've never heard of it, it must not exist, obviously. Over 800 women die from childbirth EVERY DAY. How exactly do those numbers compare to the handful of deaths confirmed to have been even remotely caused by blows to testicles?
So because you've never heard of it, it must not exist, obviously. Over 800 women die from childbirth EVERY DAY. How exactly do those numbers compare to the handful of deaths confirmed to have been even remotely caused by blows to testicles?
Just to be clear, you understand that shock is caused by a lack of blood flow, correct? And that women who give birth die of shock all the time? Less now to the thanks of modern medicine, but it still happens. They literally die from the same thing, except in one of your scenarios you're claiming being submerged in ice water is more painful than having your vagina pretty much exploded and joined to your asshole, or various other internal hemorrhaging, to the point you bleed to death. '
And let's not even start on the women who have pelvis' too small, babies too big, and not a c-section in sight. This is still a very real issue that occurs mostly in undeveloped countries. Labour WILL kill these women.
You also fail to take into account that most women are in hospitals when they give birth, so if they DO go into shock from the pain alone, doctors are there to help prevent and treat the issue. Men get kicked or thwacked in the balls at almost any given moment. Most don't die, and most are nowhere near a hospital and can't receive treatment.
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The simple fact is we can't compare statistics of shock-induced death because there is not enough correlating data on either side
The only documented deaths related to testicle blows have all been caused by secondary complications such as infection or cardiac arrest. I couldn't find any that stated shock as the cause of death. Even Snopes has a n article on the subject and they state it's unsubstantiated.
Even if they haven't experienced it yet, doesn't mean they won't. The majority of women will experience childbirth in their lifetime. Usually they are complaining about it because they are scared, childbirth is risky, dangerous, and takes a big toll on the body. Maybe they have not experienced it yet, but if you will inevitably have to do something painful or uncomfortable, you're likely to complain as well. Many men have yet to reach the age for regular prostate exams, yet still complain that they will have to get them eventually.
- Women still bear the brunt of contraceptives and are the only ones expected to be on birth control, and their side effects can take a toll on the body (blood clotting for example).
- Additionally, depending on the person and other possible medical conditions, periods can range from as painful as childbirth to just annoying.
- Additionally pt 2, most women see the detrimental effects of childbirth on other women and learn to fear it. Not the same as experiencing it of course, but choosing between your health/career and having a child isn’t something men typically have to experience.
Well now, it’s a bit complex isn’t it? We all have brains (despite some internet commenters bringing that statement into question...) and most of us will have at least one headache in life... but even comparing apples to apples, if you’re mildly annoyed by your headache and your neighbor is doubled over in tears by theirs- who’s headache is worse? Is theirs worse, or is yours and you’re just tougher or more able to cope? Can a person born without legs not know that a foot cramp hurts, or at least be able to deduce it? It’s a factual statement as much as any statement dealing in absolutes like “never” can be (maybe some day men will give birth? Who knows?) Regardless men never will know the pain of childbirth, or the experience of it. Men cannot relate to it and at best can empathize but must ultimately defer to women on the subject. All the same- the female body is designed to accommodate child birth, people do it every day, many do it multiple times, and it’s been going on a long time
So I wouldn’t lord being able to produce a baby over anyone, plenty of women and even some men wish they could have that experience but can’t. It’s like telling a person without legs they’ll never know how bad a Charlie horse feels, or someone born totally blind that at least they’ll never be disoriented by flashing lights. Not being able to feel the pain of child birth also means being not being able to experience any of the positives, not being able to create a life. So men should likely be sympathetic and understanding to women on the issue. However one can hardly hold against a man that he was born without even the anatomy to have a child. It’s not like he made a decision, and in the end even between pregnant women all will feel different levels of pain or discomfort through birth, so how does one compare pain between people? We can’t, so it’s ultimately pointless and there’s no basis of comparison or tests or controls that can give a definitive answer.
Well, I have done my own observation and I do agree different people expetience pain differently. If it physiological, experience, or psychological well, needs more research. And well I have seen I think each case being true. For example, from my own very informal observation I have proved (to myself my own theory) that given an specific pain, let's say neck pain, people in general who 1. have never had pain, 2. most men, or 3. women without kids complain the most/ more than women who have had kids. Obviously it is a generalization, so not everyone is going to follow this "theory" but that's what a generalization is.
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A lot of women who have emergency c-sections can have worse labours than women who give birth normally simply due to complications. Women who have planned c-sections (depending on the reason) probably won't have as much pain, but as you say they still go into labour, which is far from a walk in the park.
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... or so I'm told.
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...that being said, it's generally a lot harder to get access to do any kind of significant damage there than it is to guys' genitals, since guys are way more exposed. Guys also are more likely to have side effects like their testicles rupturing and such, which is a whole new bag of fun on it's own
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That said, being kicked in the balls 100 times consecutively may well be on par with the pain of childbirth... there's really no way of knowing. The testicles would almost certainly rupture before reaching that mark, and the victim would almost certainly die in the process. It's also possible for them to die from a single kick, but EXTREMELY less common than women dying in child birth.
-pereniums (the skin between your asshole and your vagina/balls) often tears during childbirth, and the tears can extend back into the rectum. They can also tear at the front of the vagina
-pelvic bones can fracture or break (by accident or by force.. It used to be somewhat common practice in some parts of the world)
-eclampsia, which is a condition caused by high blood pressure that can lead to seizures and death
-Hemorrhaging
All of which can have long term consequences, and do not include consequences for the baby
(A vacuum extraction, for example, can lead to fractures in the fetus' skull)
And let's not even start on the women who have pelvis' too small, babies too big, and not a c-section in sight. This is still a very real issue that occurs mostly in undeveloped countries. Labour WILL kill these women.
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The simple fact is we can't compare statistics of shock-induced death because there is not enough correlating data on either side
- Additionally, depending on the person and other possible medical conditions, periods can range from as painful as childbirth to just annoying.
- Additionally pt 2, most women see the detrimental effects of childbirth on other women and learn to fear it. Not the same as experiencing it of course, but choosing between your health/career and having a child isn’t something men typically have to experience.