Britain is like a parent. All their colonies are their children. America moved out early, and kinda took a dive. Australia's still living with their parents, Canada is the child that calls every week, and apparently Hong Kong is moving back in.
Africa was doomed the moment Rome became more powerful than Carthage. It's been a resource rape ever since. Sure, there was a small golden age with Timbuktu and another with the Islamic golden age, but that just wasn't enough. At least the past 20 years have shown some promise.
Just going to add on to that moment, as it literally changed the entire world. The moment Rome took Carthage, they gained a massive buffer not just for Rome, but every European civilization, as they now held control of the Mediterranean. They then proceeded to burn down an entire forest along the coast of North Africa, a forest that was keeping the Sahara at bay and most of North Africa as fertile plains. So they burn the forest down, the Sahara expands, and, get this, the Amazon recieves it's nutrients from Saharan sand blown at high altitudes across the Atlantic. The Amazon expands, consuming what used to be fertile plains. Rome accidentally ended civilizations on a continent they didn't even know existed. They literally practiced global terra-forming without realizing it. That's just.... lol.
Oh also fun fact and add on: This can actually be traced through giraffe DNA, as the species' population was separated and became two sub-species. Fucking giraffes,
"Africa's the one who was doing pretty alright until they started fucking each other up, and then everyone else started fucking them up, too."
Classic imperialist narrative. as expected from a proto-fascist. As it's been told about the american indigenous population btw...
India's that one child who always receives a lot of corporal punishments and is also a rebel at the same time before getting his shit together, enough for his parents to let him go in the outside world.
Halfdead likes to call me a fascist. 88 is associated with neo-Nazis.
I'm saying that halfdead likes to see fascism everywhere right of left, especially where it doesn't make sense.
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A nazi is usually also a fascist, but many fascists are not nazis. I'm pretty sure you're not a nazi, but you're a blueprint fascist.
@atlas_shrugging while that's a very good article, that's not what I'm talking about... well it's kind of what I'm talking about, but that was a few thousands of years before the time I'm talking about. Think AD 300-600.
Hell if I know. I've asked a half dozen times and halfdead just kept saying that I'm a textbook fascist, or that of course a fascist would deny being a fascist.
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http://home.earthlink.net/~eldonenew/fascism.htm
Here's a pretty comprehensive checklist. It's describing a fascist state/regime rather than personal fascist views but I'm pretty sure anyone who is able to transfer a little bit will recognize our good old buddy in there. Not saying he's got a check on every item, but definitely some of the majors.
@halfdeadhammerhead I disagree with @famousone on a LOT of political issues, but he's not a fascist. He's nothing close to a fascist, you're just basing that on his hardline immigration stances. At least half of which are justified (some are... mean... and some violate international treaties)... but his point has always been entirely valid.
Of those 14 checks, MAYBE two apply. Number 3 and number 4, and number 3 is a REAL hard case to make. Number 4 isn't and I'm pretty sure @famousone wouldn't mind that.
You know what? Think about this, I disagree with him on nearly everything, but here I am on his side. You're views might be.... askew. Just something worth pondering, sir.
Oh, I qualify for 3, possibly 4 of those traits. The rampant nationalism would make it 5 if I had New Zealand citizenship; as I'd currently be running around with a stick and robes taking selfies while seeing how long I can grow my beard before the itchiness/length ratio becomes unmanageable.
Those traits: 3, 7, 9, 13... but none of them for the reasons you'd expect from a fascist.
3) This is just a no brainer if you want to rally anyone.
7) Kind of hard to have a nation when there is no nation, and fear is an effective tool when used correctly (notice I'm not elaborating on how it should be correctly used).
9) Yeah, and it sucks, but it works. I'll continue to argue for what I perceive as better systems, but It's still me arguing.... you're still going to pay the same price for gas tomorrow.
13) This is where the difference between 3 and 4 really hits home. On one hand, getting a job just because you were born into the right family is entirely fucked up...
....there is still the possibility that you might actually be good at the job. This is way more of a case-by-case basis, but for the most part, I'd like cronyism/nepotism kept out of the government.
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1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 11 + 12, that's 7 out of 14, or rather out of 9, because 8, 9, 10, 13 + 14 cannot really be applied to an individual, respectively there cannot be sympathy from anyone outside the power group. Pretty sure there's a lot of sympathy for 6, as in his fake news/corrupt mainstream media narrative. Just because the idea of an entirely corrupt system of media is mainstream doesn't mean it's not fascist. Usually it's only based on personal opinion, not actual evidence, except a few anecdotical cases. Not sure if that'd be approved by an academic peer review of political scientists but way more than enough for me to have the opinion. His sheepish devotion to Trump and his general braindead strongman attitude don't help his case here.
Definition of fascism
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
I'm a nationalist, and a libertarian leaning constitutionalist.
"Nothing but the state.
Nothing outside the state.
Nothing against the state."
That's fascist. Our constitution was structured specifically to say that people can act outside or against the state. Today is the anniversary of my forefathers and predecessors declaring war against their state.
POTUS is reducing the state's power, has put numerous women and minorities in positions of power, and continues to safeguard individual rights from the state. All while moving closer to our constitution.
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So per your own assessment you're not a fascist, who would have thought?
@funkmasterrex, I appreciate you clarifying the time period that you were referring to! However, I was actually trying to ask if you could provide a link (“Source?”) that supports the points you made about Rome causing the expansion of the Sahara desert (and later the expansion of the Amazon rainforest) by burning a forest in Africa? I conducted multiple searches on google but didn’t find any support for those claims. It sounds like a very interesting chain of events and I would be interested in reading more about it, if possible.
Yeah, just give me a few minutes, as it's going to take more than one article.
I think we can agree that the Romans built a bunch of bath houses in North Africa though, right? That part seems unnecessary. Here's a decent start, but note 1) I was wrong, it was between 600 BC and 300 BC, my bad... and 2) most of this information, and there is A LOT of it, is focused on Europe, but it still shows North Africa (page 9 has a good representation).
https://www.wsl.ch/staff/niklaus.zimmermann/papers/QuatSciRev_Kaplan_2009.pdf
The last part, the connection, is something you can understand by watching a lawn grow or just looking into the dust bowl. You take out all those trees, they moisture they generate is no long there, the wind is no longer as blocked and the soil isn't held together as well and it blows away.... where does it blow? The Amazon Basin. The Amazon rain-forest is only as big as the amount of phosphorus in the dust provided, which is why the annual amount of phosphorus deposited and phosphorus depleted are roughly the same. Cut down the forest, more phosphorus being swept into the Amazon basin, the larger the rain-forest expands... faster than the natives in the region can adapt, leading to not enough fertile plains and starvation.
Here is something else that hints that the tribes in the amazon realized the situation and tried to adapt with some sort of knowledge with the soil and the basin changing being passed down, as to try to preserve an ability to farm: https://www.adventure-life.com/articles/Brazil-ancient-history-1086
at "In the early 16th century, the Spanish explorer Francisco de Orellana became the first European to sail down the length of the Amazon River. He reported that the banks of the river were densely populated agrarian towns and cities, going upstream for hundreds of miles. The pre-Columbian city on the island of Marajo was home to 100,000 people. Altogether, as many as 5 million people may have lived along the Amazon River, far more than its total population today. The secret behind their success was terra preta, the miracle soil of the Amazon rainforest which had been built up by their ancestors over centuries."
Also, I'm not claiming I'm 100% certain about it all, as I wasn't there, but I'm 95% sure it's how it happened.... as it's the simplest explanation that fits with the data points.
2,500 years ago the winds could have been blowing in the opposite direction, the Atlantic current was flowing in the opposite direction, but I'm not putting my money on it.
Oh... I didn't even notice, but that NASA article mentions the forests in the south now having a relationship with how much dust is being swept away, that's EXACTLY the same thing the forest west of Carthage was doing.
Lol
Also I can't say anything for Africa because I don't know enough to make an opinion
This was the closest thing I could find and it says nothing about Rome and even stresses that we have only established a correlation not causation, between human actions and the climate changes at that time.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/what-really-turned-sahara-desert-green-oasis-wasteland-180962668/
Classic imperialist narrative. as expected from a proto-fascist. As it's been told about the american indigenous population btw...
I'm saying that halfdead likes to see fascism everywhere right of left, especially where it doesn't make sense.
See?
Here's a pretty comprehensive checklist. It's describing a fascist state/regime rather than personal fascist views but I'm pretty sure anyone who is able to transfer a little bit will recognize our good old buddy in there. Not saying he's got a check on every item, but definitely some of the majors.
Of those 14 checks, MAYBE two apply. Number 3 and number 4, and number 3 is a REAL hard case to make. Number 4 isn't and I'm pretty sure @famousone wouldn't mind that.
You know what? Think about this, I disagree with him on nearly everything, but here I am on his side. You're views might be.... askew. Just something worth pondering, sir.
Those traits: 3, 7, 9, 13... but none of them for the reasons you'd expect from a fascist.
3) This is just a no brainer if you want to rally anyone.
7) Kind of hard to have a nation when there is no nation, and fear is an effective tool when used correctly (notice I'm not elaborating on how it should be correctly used).
9) Yeah, and it sucks, but it works. I'll continue to argue for what I perceive as better systems, but It's still me arguing.... you're still going to pay the same price for gas tomorrow.
13) This is where the difference between 3 and 4 really hits home. On one hand, getting a job just because you were born into the right family is entirely fucked up...
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
I'm a nationalist, and a libertarian leaning constitutionalist.
"Nothing but the state.
Nothing outside the state.
Nothing against the state."
That's fascist. Our constitution was structured specifically to say that people can act outside or against the state. Today is the anniversary of my forefathers and predecessors declaring war against their state.
POTUS is reducing the state's power, has put numerous women and minorities in positions of power, and continues to safeguard individual rights from the state. All while moving closer to our constitution.
I think we can agree that the Romans built a bunch of bath houses in North Africa though, right? That part seems unnecessary. Here's a decent start, but note 1) I was wrong, it was between 600 BC and 300 BC, my bad... and 2) most of this information, and there is A LOT of it, is focused on Europe, but it still shows North Africa (page 9 has a good representation).
https://www.wsl.ch/staff/niklaus.zimmermann/papers/QuatSciRev_Kaplan_2009.pdf
at "In the early 16th century, the Spanish explorer Francisco de Orellana became the first European to sail down the length of the Amazon River. He reported that the banks of the river were densely populated agrarian towns and cities, going upstream for hundreds of miles. The pre-Columbian city on the island of Marajo was home to 100,000 people. Altogether, as many as 5 million people may have lived along the Amazon River, far more than its total population today. The secret behind their success was terra preta, the miracle soil of the Amazon rainforest which had been built up by their ancestors over centuries."
2,500 years ago the winds could have been blowing in the opposite direction, the Atlantic current was flowing in the opposite direction, but I'm not putting my money on it.