How arbitrary is "second most oppressive country", that's not something you can just measure, countries don't have an 'oppresion rating'. This isn't Sid Meier's civilization.
Further- let’s just play PRETEND, and say for discussion there right and there is a scale- and China in fact is in the place they say- just for discussion: their point is STILL a mess. A common theme of speculative fiction or even real world speculation for 40+ years has been the integration of simulation or video based distraction as a means of control of populations. The idea that a state of control would embrace and encourage placation through the use of something like video games as a way to control or otherwise distract and subdue a population is a natural assumption. So even IF we could rank which countries were most repressive and IF we agreed China was anywhere near the top of that list- a state based on control relies on media and media control- so embracing “gamers” isn’t a sign of freedom but is easily a component of control and repression. Like use of drugs or other means for pacification.
What in heck did i just read.
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They say that like failure to provide FREE gaming closets for public use is some kind of oppression. Like, step aside LGBTQ, BTFO religious/racial minorities, the GAMERS are being forced to SHOP while they're at the mall
Why do women drag their husband to shop for things that their husband has zero interest in?
One time my father took me out to shop for a new driller... a fucking driller! I felt like I gonna use it on my own forehead later on!
Why don't you just ask a fellow women to come with you? Or anyone who can actually give advices on those things that you wanna buy.
>You take your husband out to shop for hmmm let say clothes.
>your husband is clueless, he doesn't know what to say.
>you're upset.
>your husband is obviously bored as hell and not having a good time.
>he's also upset.
>everyone is upset.
>you continue to take your poor husband to shopping next time.
Calling China the most oppressive regime in the world is so inaccurate. I live here. These people are not oppressed. They trust and believe in their government.
The level of oppression of any country is largely relative. When we say something like “most oppressive” what are we talking about? They oppress the most people? They oppress a small number of people but the oppression is extreme? America just spent a good part of the year dealing with riots by minorities claiming centuries of systemic and social oppression. We just had our Capitol stormed by a group claiming political oppression. Anti maskers have been crying about oppression since covid began... and that’s not to mention peoples feelings about California, New York, etc etc and the fact that several states have been trying to or talking about secession because of oppression- for over a century. We can say that many Nazis loved their government and didn’t feel oppressed yes. But that’s a false argument as we could also easily say that about America. We could point the Chinese treatment of ethnic groups, but China could show us pictures of humans in cages,
Children who’s parents we literally lost, riots in our streets and people starting literal cities inside cities to escape our government. How much of it is spin and how much is real? Is the Chinese government all daisies? Hell no. Do I want to live there? Not particularly. But we could also say that many Chinese don’t want to live in America. Much of the world sees news of us that makes them terrified to even visit due to what seems like an unstable and dangerous country- it’s a 2 way street.
And really- at the end of the day- asides from being communist in core theory, is China so different than the country many Americans want to create, tried to create under the outgoing regime? A largely homogeneous nation where people are required to assimilate to existing culture and language, strong border protections, domestic stability, de regulated industry, conservative social values, an almost complete lack of “pc culture” or tolerance for “snow flakes”? “America First” “China First” it’s all the same thing. It’s quite humorous to me that often right wing conservatives are some of the strongest anti China folk- when what so many want from society and government is basically what China has; they just want an American version with their own traditions and groups in the majority which others must fit in to.
I guess the main difference between the humans America has in cages and the ones China has in cages is: the ones in America are trying to run INTO the country, not escape FROM it.
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But it's cute that you managed to somehow pretend the entire existence of oppression is something only people on one side of the political spectrum do. Please, carry on telling us 240 of the right opinions you hold
Guest_: Yeah, no. That ain't it.
Are you trolling? Or do you actually not know what it is people who disagree with you want?
You sound like a genocide denier, and if you actually think that's what we want, then you just haven't been paying attention, and cannot be helped.
@xvarnah- sensitive? Where exactly did I say that oppression was one sided? I make two separate statements- one being that conservative politics, regardless of nation- tend to be... conservative.... and that’s fairly universal at the CORE- a term I use prominently there to qualify there are nuances between degrees of conservative thought. The second statement I make is about Americans placing people in cages in losing track of families- a true statement regardless of politics- and I do not ascribe any political blame in that statement. While key policy changes occurred under the Trump Administration, you lay or may not be aware that the use of detention centers predates his administration. Unlike you I did not differentiate the concept of liberal and conservative America on that particular issue- it is a fact that the United States government has done these things. The government is not a single party of ideological slant.
@famousone- so you are saying that you do not want stronger borders? You have not, do not now, nor will you on the future support the border wall or tighter immigration controls? You do not support traditional social values? Are you claiming to be a social liberal and progressive- you support and advocate non binary gender for example? You do not support nor are you on record supporting a pro America and or America first stance, advocating a focus on domestic issues and domestic prosperity over foreign policy and aid? You have never in our discourse advocates for a strong stance on diplomacy or praised Donald trump and replied to detractors that it didn’t matter if other countries liked him or felt he was being fair- so long as his actions were forwarding American interests? You say that I do not know what you want- but I think you might not know or remember the things you have said.
As for accusations of genocide denial- nice try junior. Mindless mudslinging and straw men are out of fashion as of today though. I do not deny the criminal human rights violations of China, Otho g I have said here does so, and I am on record in numerous posts discussing the abuses of the Chinese government. The fact that the Chinese government does bad things does not mean the United States government does not and has not. I may SOUND like a denier to your ears (what I sound like to people who can’t even keep what they have said straight let alone reality is somewhat irrelevant) but you ARE an apologist and a revisionist historian. I know my countries history and it’s flaws and I still love America. You seem to love your idea of America, the problem with love based on fantasy is that reality often breaks our enchantment. Sorry to tell you, America does fart and it doesn’t always wear makeup. Will you still love it when you see it in the morning? I’ve seen it and I do.
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They say that like failure to provide FREE gaming closets for public use is some kind of oppression. Like, step aside LGBTQ, BTFO religious/racial minorities, the GAMERS are being forced to SHOP while they're at the mall
One time my father took me out to shop for a new driller... a fucking driller! I felt like I gonna use it on my own forehead later on!
Why don't you just ask a fellow women to come with you? Or anyone who can actually give advices on those things that you wanna buy.
>You take your husband out to shop for hmmm let say clothes.
>your husband is clueless, he doesn't know what to say.
>you're upset.
>your husband is obviously bored as hell and not having a good time.
>he's also upset.
>everyone is upset.
>you continue to take your poor husband to shopping next time.
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But it's cute that you managed to somehow pretend the entire existence of oppression is something only people on one side of the political spectrum do. Please, carry on telling us 240 of the right opinions you hold
Are you trolling? Or do you actually not know what it is people who disagree with you want?
You sound like a genocide denier, and if you actually think that's what we want, then you just haven't been paying attention, and cannot be helped.