When doctors do visible damage

Interesting. The implication here is that people that are alive don't suffer when someone they care about dies, or is murdered, possibly in a horrific way, yes? Or that the suffering is less than if someone goes through a very serious illness but possibly survives?
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As dr_richard_ew pointed out, people dress up as murderers, tormentors, dictators, etc all the time

Alright, new tactic: she said least scary thing. We are ignoring that. You guys are mentioning people dress up as dictators... because they’re scary! They’re evil! Death is scary!
But she is saying that children suffering is not. That’s why the guy is triggered

I never even considered measles as child suffering until idiots stopped vaccinating. Yeah it was shitty but it's an illness, and people wouldn't be up in arms about this if the stupid brigade didnt claim that vaccines cause autism.
My best way of describing this is to compare someone dressing up as the black death vs coronavirus. Both caused tons of human suffering, but one is actually happening to people right now, which measles wouldnt be if some quacks in a lab fucked up mankinds neurological evolution as a species by making false claims and getting the overwhelmingly large conciousness of braindead people to trust them.

I may have misread her original post and not seen the "least" part before. And the doctor is right that measles can and often is very serious.
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But even with that in mind, Maybe to her measels aren't particularly scary? To most people who have been vaccinated measels aren't scary. The woman never mentioned children at all - the doctor did that
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Some people are terrified of dogs. They've had dogs attack them, rip parts of their faces off, had to undergo dozens of surgeries just to be allowed out in public. Dog attacks are a serious thing. But most people aren't afraid of dogs. If I dress up as a pit bull for Halloween and say I "dressed up as the least scary thing I could think of" is that an attack on all the children that have been bitten by dogs on the past. Am I now a sociopath?

Fuck I missed the word 'least' as well, my b.
Also I'm terrified of dogs, but am I gonna get mad at xvarnah for dressing like one? No bc I know for a fact I wont get attacked by her... hopefully

I think the only reason the doctor is getting triggered is that people like this lead to real consequences for others. For example me dressing as a pit bull and saying I’m the least scary thing isn’t gonna lead to a pit bull harming someone. But if this is my mindset, when I get kids and I think of measles as nothing scary then I’m helping spread a disease that could easily be eradicated. Or even if I don’t get kids I could push others to not get vaccines etc. It’s a disease she’s not afraid of which is fine. But this is the same as not being afraid of pit bulls and then having a pit bull that I have treated and trained so badly that it attacks other people on sight. You’re allowed to have your beliefs, but at the point that they harm others, people get to defend themselves. It’s a tricky subject cause lots of people get sick when they shouldn’t have cause of dumbasses against vaccines. I have a terrible immune system and went through hell once cause of an antivax parent

I will say this: without ANY context- we cannot assume she is “antivax.” The Doctor MAY have seen other posts of hers- or for all I know she is some prominent antivax “influencer”... but with NO context- for a person immunized against measles- measles isn’t really scary is it? Sorta like saying that you aren’t scared of giving birth- when you biologically cannot do it (or very, very, likely cannot.)

But to put a fine point on it- I am not SCARED a piece of the ISS will fall on me and kill me. It COULD. That would be HORRIBLE (for me, and likely some folks who know me...) but scary? No. It’s unlikely. Now- why would I be scared about people I don’t know getting measles- or even people suffering for that matter? I would try to avoid it, I would find it terrible if it happened- but would I be SCARED of it? No. I would not. I’m not scared of getting measles, I don’t want to get measles. I’m also not SCARED of jury duty- but I’d rather not have that either. So... technically speaking... is measles SCARY? Well.... that depends. But I’m not scared of COVID either- fear is generally illogical. We can prepare, take precautions, and what will happen happens. But are people afraid of the dark- or what it hides or represents? I think it’s fair for some people to not FEAR measles- much like many things though- a healthy level of respect to potential danger is prudent.

But even out of context, it’s a very strange thing to say especially when there’s a huge fight against antivaxxers don’t you think so? I mean in theory you could dress up like a rapist and say they aren’t scary for me. She’s not wrong maybe she’s got teeth down there and she’s actually hoping to use it. BUT it’s gonna be taken as insensitive to people that do suffer

I’m not feeling up to debating what is or is not appropriate for a Halloween costume. If you said “rapists aren’t scary....” from your personal perspective- that’s your personal feeling towards rapists. One could also not think rapists are scary- but still think they are repugnant. is “rapist” an appropriate Halloween costume? I don’t think it is. That said- you can find pages and pages on google over wether or not “Indian” or any number of things are appropriate costumes. On this very site you’ll find debates about “cultural appropriation” for example- if it exists- what is or isn’t. I’m
Sure we’ve all seen the “I’m not a Halloween costume” or “my culture isn’t your costume” PSA’s and subsequent mocking memes.

And what is the outrage at cultural appropriation? In large part history. A representation of victim/victimizer. Is “black face” just a big deal because it looks like you’re making fun of how people of color look- or if you look into it- is it because of a history of repression and subjugation- of one sided taking of one group from another? History is the evil there. We mostly agree “Nazi” or “Plantation space driver” aren’t appropriate costumes yes?

But- what about confederate soldier? People have whole events dressing that way- but “confederate soldier” is generally more an acceptable costume than... Taliban or ISIS fighter isn’t it? What about Vikings? The ancient culture of another race- and often a terror in ancient Europe. What about dressing as a knight of certain periods and the connection that has to the crusades and the slaughter, pillage, rapes across Africa and the Muslim world? How topical does the differing have to be for us to say it is valid? How recent?

You aren’t likely to get near universally agreed upon hard answers to these questions anytime soon. I’m also not saying it is ok to dress up as a Nazi or that it isn’t ok to dress up as a Knight. I’m saying that wether a costume is APPROPRIATE and wether it is SCARY are not the same thing. I am not SCARED of Ho Chi Minh- and in America in 2020 he is nothing to be afraid of. Would it be APPROPRIATE to dress up as Ho Chi Minh? Maybe not. Is it APPROPRIATE to mock him, or to deify him...? Not relevant to the discussion. The discussion is fear.

The doctor could have said that her costume was not appropriate. Personally- I’d agree with you. That I feel in 2020- making that statement on a public forum is inappropriate. But..... then again.... “edge” right? Most of what Dave Chappell has done comedically has been “inappropriate” “offensive” or “insensitive” but sometimes- that brand of humor is a useful tool in shocking people. Ironically- part of why he ended his show was because he felt people were missing the satire of his outrageousness and laughing AT the stereotypes and not at the idea of those who hold those stereotypes. Is this woman “right” in her actions? From what I see, I don’t think I approve. But- context is key, and beyond that- the rebuttal is hinges upon the wrong premise. Nothing the doctor said should imply fear.

Respect, awareness, sensitivity. Not fear. And well.... the doctor is kinda wrong too. What kind of doctor tells someone they should fear a preventable disease? Is that the message we should spread for COVID or AIDS? BE AFRAID OF IT!!!! No. Be aware of it. Be aware it can be prevented. Be educated. Be safe. Be smart. Be sensitive to those who have it. All good messages for diseases. Be afraid? Not the message a healthcare professional should be advocating.