Well it seems like the foundations for a universal morality or ethic
I think the experiments in which two rats play fought are even more interesting
They lay an even clearer grounding for morality, as far as I can tell
@jethro_bob that's still empathy; as the rat could just wait for the whiny one to die. It never took that route. It's not like rats are the only other animal empathy has been observed in; everything from crows to alligators to lions have shown empathy. The problem with humans understanding that empathy is that they tend to put their morals upon it. We even do that to each other, hence our religious bickering.
It's almost as if people/mice don't want utopia
Dostoyevski figured this out over a century ago
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"Now, interpretations of Calhoun’s work has changed. Inglis-Arkell explains that the habitats he created weren’t really overcrowded, but that isolation enabled aggressive mice to stake out territory and isolate the beautiful ones. She writes, "Instead of a population problem, one could argue that Universe 25 had a fair distribution problem.""
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"But we can take comfort in the face that humans are not mice. The NIH Record spoke to medical historian Edmund Ramsden about Calhoun’s work:
Ultimately, “[r]ats may suffer from crowding; human beings can cope," Ramdsen says. "Calhoun’s research was seen not only as questionable, but also as dangerous.” Another researcher, Jonathan Freedman, turned to studying actual people — they were just high school and university students, but definitely human. His work suggested a different interpretation. Moral decay could arise “not from density, but from excessive social interaction,” Ramsden says. “Not all of Calhoun’s rats had gone berserk. Those who managed to control space led relatively normal lives.”"
I think the experiments in which two rats play fought are even more interesting
They lay an even clearer grounding for morality, as far as I can tell
Dostoyevski figured this out over a century ago
Ultimately, “[r]ats may suffer from crowding; human beings can cope," Ramdsen says. "Calhoun’s research was seen not only as questionable, but also as dangerous.” Another researcher, Jonathan Freedman, turned to studying actual people — they were just high school and university students, but definitely human. His work suggested a different interpretation. Moral decay could arise “not from density, but from excessive social interaction,” Ramsden says. “Not all of Calhoun’s rats had gone berserk. Those who managed to control space led relatively normal lives.”"
well, the rat expect none from you too!