What is wrong with them? As teachers, they should be encouraging them to learn. It's what they're supposed to stand for.
[I took the advanced placement test when I was four and I perfected it because I had been attending a special school since I was two. I perfected the test but the teacher-in-charge didn't let me skip a grade because apparently I was too young.]
The exact same thing happened to me, and I'm in the exact same grade, only I'm 13 turning 14 (I'm not sure if you're 14 turning 15 or 13 already turned 14)! I'm so happy to find someone else...
I would've went from passing 3rd grade straight to 5th grade and the 5th grade was at a completely different school. I didn't know anyone in the grade above me and as a little kid I wanted friends by my side and not to be in an unknown environment with people I didn't know. I ended up moving to another state a couple years after that so it happened anyway and I didn't get to skip a grade.
Skipping a grade seems fun, but later it starts to suck because in college at 17, it's harder to talk to the other people because you don't have the same problems that they do (eg. paying for a house).
I skipped the fourth grade, and looking back I wished I hadn't.
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I regret skipping third grade, but at the same time I don't. The issue with me is I was already a year young, so when I skipped a grade I ended up being 2 years younger than everyone else. It makes social situations a bit hard, but if I hadn't skipped a grade I would have been extremely bored (until I skipped a grade I would end up getting a term's worth of work in some subjects done in a few lessons, then we'd run out of things for me to do.) So I had to end up choosing either academics or social, and I chose academics because I already got along better with people a bit older than me. Having said that, I'm a bit scared now because I'm going to end up in college at 16 if I don't take a gap year.
I've never seen teachers behave like this.
OP's problems are with those teachers, because I've never encountered such resistance.
Except for maybe math.
I had to write about what would happen after the Giver, and I got a 50 because it was "incorrect" even though I read the other books. My english teacher never read them.
A school down here actually had riots because on the last couple of weeks of school ( after testing) the teachers were cracking down on dress codes and giving detentions and shit because people didn't do the smallest thing like have their shirt tucked in, and one guy I knew got in trouble for an " extreme hairstyle " which was a Mohawk no bigger than an inch.
And I think I read somewhere that schooling today is the same as the industrialization era, where all they taught you was how to be able to get in a factory job.
This is precisely why I wish I had been homeschooled. I could have graduated a few years early, but the school wanted me to learn at their pace, not mine.
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That is why I do online school. If I know something, I can skip straight to the test!
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This is one of the reasons I'm homeschooling my kids. And I can teach them in the manners that suit their learning styles.
In theory a one size fits all approach to anything, especially education, is meant to keep everyone on par with each other. In the case of education though it is often that thinking that causes more issue than anything. It forces those that are behind and/or unable to keep pace with the rest of the school system to move one without fully understanding the subject matter. This method also heavily suppresses those that are advanced by teaching them and forcing them to stay at a lesser level than what they should be at. Education is a must but a one size fits all is a terrible way to go about it.
i was an A+ student in advanced mathematics, but i couldn't show the workings out without getting confused, I therefore wrote the answer, then scribbled gibberish and crap in between as the "working out" part. The teacher called me over, and i just ran off shit explaining how i got to my answer, they looked confused, but didn't admit it, gave me 100% regardless.
I had a teacher take points off because I didn't show my work on a simple problem. I got the answer right but I didn't show how.
I also got points taken off by another teacher for solving it a different way than be taught and he threatened detention if I didn't start using his way, which was a lot longer and more complicated.
problem with those types of teachers, they're unfamiliar with anything different that's not in their text books, they're closed minded to other methods
I'm kind of known as the person in my class to be the 'A kid' when it comes to english, but my teacher almost lowered my grade because I use more complex and describing words and she doesn't feel someone my age (16) would use that kind of language and pretty much every teacher i know puts you down if you have another view on things
They just want to mold us into these exactly alike robots that will follow orders
stop bitching about school, when you start working your boss is going to suddenly acknowledge your right and give you right of way. When you start at the bottom you have to deal with stuff like this, your not a fucking prodigy so calm down.
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Start at the bottom? What? Some people are just incredibly gifted, and the American public schooling system is built to hinder that. And maybe these people are prodigies, so they deserve better. And good schooling is VITAL. Right of way is useless when you can't use it for what you want to. And this isn't a rant. It's a strong argument against the system with lots of good evidence. Please attempt to understand what it would be like for someone to be forcefully stripped from the knowledge that they seek, in an education centre, of all places. Thanks!
-StrangelyAcoustic
It's not just the American system.
I was reading adults books at 8 years old and my teacher that year allowed me to bring in those books for reading at school. The teacher the next year refused to let me read them and forced me to get books from the school library that I had been reading 4 years prior and were far too simple for my reading level.
The social aspect is what you make of it though. There's clubs and co-op groups and lots of opportunities to socialize if you take them. I'm homeschooling and my kids are really little but we get plenty of social time.
I hate clubs and groups and dances and whatnot. I can't stand that type of structure and level of sociability.
What I meant was just in classes, you have people you habitually talk with. Simple small things like that. No part of my social life involves me doing more than the absolute necessary to pass school. No band, no drama/musical, no singing, no DECA, no clubs, no sports. But I have people in class that I get along very well with.
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I think that might be like co-ops. My siblings were part of one when my parents homeschooled them for a bit in high school. It was just classes that they all did together.
But I know what you mean with the extra stuff. I pretty much did the same thing in school. I just wanted out of there.
Our Thesis adviser had us remove the first paragraph of our paper because we did not quote what book we copied that paragraph. When I say we did not copy that and it was just what comes out of my mind, he said that, before me, someone else have said that, but he can't tell us who said it first.
I seriously thought this was my brother because I remember when we were little at the library, we had restrictions to books depending on our grade but he was in 4th grade and was even reading from the teachers and senior class sections.
I have gotten marked down in math many times for using the wrong method on tests. Even for writing left to right and not up to down. I feel like tests are supposed to grade you on knowledge . If you know more than one way to do some thing then that should be allowed.
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That happened to my son where he got marked wrong for finding a different way to answer the question. We, politely, requested a meeting and, politely, asked why. She, politely, answered that he was being testing on that particular way to solve the problem. She admitted he got the correct answer and said he should use that way for finding the correct answer any other time, but unfortunately the curriculum was testing a different way. On other papers or tests that weren't testing that particular way of solving a problem, he was able to answer any way he wanted. We accepted that answer and moved on.
The american school system sounds terrible and i feel really sorry for all da kids with potential but arent getting a chance (if all the posts ive seen are true)makes me even more grateful im irish and go to school in ireland even tho i hate school sometimes!
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I don't have a problem with you hating school, but don't make matters worse with poor grammar and spelling.
Yeah because typing a bit faster is definitely making the problem of bad teaching in america worse......and most people hate school sometimes everyone has good days and bad days...and fyi i dont hate school i love it most days and im very grateful that i have an education sooo...i dont really see why shortening a few words in a meaningless comment is "making matters worse" ...
Okay downvote if u wont dont care just saying i think its alright for me to make a few errors seen as english isnt even my first language nd im preetty proud that i can speak 3languages fluently at aged 15 so dont really give a fuck if ye think my grammar and spelling is insuffcient kay thanks bye x
Not saying that the school system is wonderful, but that last line isn't true. Having crappy teachers isn't exactly the same as having a corrupt school system.
If anything, perhaps paying teachers higher salaries would help attract better teachers. As it is, when you pay a lousy wage you shouldn't be surprised to get lousy employees.
Also, when the teacher in 4 th grade was saying that atoms never stop moving, and I was like ahem, absolute zero? And she was like ' it is just a theory'
It's a different version of the post. Believe it or not, people don't know every single thing that has been posted on this site, let alone went through your posts and decided to repost. If it's not your content, you have no right to complain.
What, are you really so egotistical that you would think somebody deliberately took your post, edited it, and posted it again here? Someone probably did the same thing you did; saw a funny post on another site, and decided to post it here. And if your main argument is that I'm a guest, then you don't have an argument at all. The internet is a place for anonymity, surprisingly enough, and it wouldn't be much different if I had an account. No need to get butthurt, buddy.
Shut it. Someone probably posted it before you and you didn't see it. Obviously they didn't steal your post because it's in a different formatting.
How would you feel if someone came to your post and yelled at you because they posted it before you did ?
Just because you didn't see it doesn't mean you brought it to the site. They might not have seen it before just like you.
And things are gone after awhile. The only way you can really see older posts is by choosing random. So not everyone sees everything.
And guest is right. You really have no room to complain since you didn't actually create the post. They stole nothing.
So, just so we're clear here since he deleted his comments: issaac whined someone copied a post he took from another site, even though it was completely differently formatted, got all butthurt when told that was a pretty dumbass thing to do, suddenly decided it was all a joke when he realized he looked like a jackass, and then deleted his comments when he realized he still looked like a jackass.
[I took the advanced placement test when I was four and I perfected it because I had been attending a special school since I was two. I perfected the test but the teacher-in-charge didn't let me skip a grade because apparently I was too young.]
OP's problems are with those teachers, because I've never encountered such resistance.
Except for maybe math.
And I think I read somewhere that schooling today is the same as the industrialization era, where all they taught you was how to be able to get in a factory job.
Sorry, it makes more sense in my head.
I also got points taken off by another teacher for solving it a different way than be taught and he threatened detention if I didn't start using his way, which was a lot longer and more complicated.
They just want to mold us into these exactly alike robots that will follow orders
-StrangelyAcoustic
I was reading adults books at 8 years old and my teacher that year allowed me to bring in those books for reading at school. The teacher the next year refused to let me read them and forced me to get books from the school library that I had been reading 4 years prior and were far too simple for my reading level.
What I meant was just in classes, you have people you habitually talk with. Simple small things like that. No part of my social life involves me doing more than the absolute necessary to pass school. No band, no drama/musical, no singing, no DECA, no clubs, no sports. But I have people in class that I get along very well with.
But I know what you mean with the extra stuff. I pretty much did the same thing in school. I just wanted out of there.
If anything, perhaps paying teachers higher salaries would help attract better teachers. As it is, when you pay a lousy wage you shouldn't be surprised to get lousy employees.
How would you feel if someone came to your post and yelled at you because they posted it before you did ?
Just because you didn't see it doesn't mean you brought it to the site. They might not have seen it before just like you.
And things are gone after awhile. The only way you can really see older posts is by choosing random. So not everyone sees everything.
And guest is right. You really have no room to complain since you didn't actually create the post. They stole nothing.
Alright, bud. Sure.
Had to delete your comments.