This is not smart. This is how to get hit with every infraction a cop can think of. Didn't signal at least fifty feet before turning? Damn I'll get out a tape measure and hit you with $150. Sped a fraction of a mph over the limit? My radar had you as 35.2 in a 35, there's another $200. Tabs dirty and not visible clearly? Add whatever fine is attached to that. Tire treads aren't at least 2/16 of an inch thick? You know the drill. Exhaust inspection is out of date? License is two days expires but ooh you were just going to get that fixed? Too bad motherfucker.
It's all very well to exercise your rights, but sometimes discretion is the better part of valor. It's all very well to tell the guy with the big stick to be nice to the guys with small sticks, but in the end the big stick is a big stick.
He is also covering most of the information on that license. This is just a bad idea. It makes them look suspicious. But hey, if you are demanding a lawyer over what could have been a simple warning for speeding or not signaling, go ahead, waste your money. We can sit here for the hour or more it takes for your lawyer to get here, charge $300 to basically verbally smack you for wasting everones time
There are dozens of videos of idiots like this getting their windows broken, getting dragged from their cars, and often times tazed. While I find watching the videos entertaining, I wouldn't follow this advice. It doesn't end well.
I hate stuff like this. Just let the police do their jobs. It's always idiots who have done something wrong that are like this. Laws are in place for everyone's protection and the police are there to uphold them. If you want to be an idiot and break the law then deal with the consequences. If you want to opt out then you should opt out of everything the police do - no help from them! If you're robbed or assaulted they won't help you. Idiots.
These things only tend to be used in areas or situations where there's police harassment though. Which IS a thing in some places, and unfortunately yelling "not all cops are bad" doesn't do anything to clear out the ones who are. Police stations are like anything else, if you want public trust you have to actually do something about the bad apples.
I don't know about the Federal/local statutes he's posted? But about 50% of cops (more or less, depending upon your region) don't give a rat's hind end about his legal rights.
And then there's this asshole above my comment.
Anyways, he is within some legal right but he misinterpreted it to fit his own idea which:
1. Doesn't work
2. Never will work
3. Makes him (and if you do this) an asshole
Abel hazard you're right xD the police really don't know about people's rights or any of that stuff turns out they literally just get told what their job is: and go out and do it (at least in my country they do). Here they would probably smash his window and drag him out. At least if that man really knows his way around law (he seems to) then he could get them in big trouble if it's taken to court
You actually do have to present your id and by signing the ticket it is promising to appear in court. If you don't sign the ticket you're saying you might not appear in court and it's the officers duty to make sure you show up to court so you can get arrested.
I don't know what state this could be but I used to be a cop and, yes children, you absolutely do have to sign the citation; it is your promise to show up in court, not an admission of guilt. When you are stopped you are technically under arrest until released. A citation is a summons instead of a physical arrest. Refusal to sign is refusal to go to court, which means you will be physically arrested and TAKEN to court. Refusal to open your window or door is resisting arrest, which never ends well for you. And if you are arrested your precious little car will be searched anyway; police have to inventory it when they impound it.
And furthermore, the cop is not going to stand there on the side of the dangerous road, squinting through the glass, and shouting into his radio over the traffic noise while he tries to call in your license information; he will take your license back to his cruiser with or without you in cuffs.
In Ohio we slide the license like a credit card, but that's just to get the info in the computer without all the typing, it doesn't automatically count for your signature. I always thought that having a license should be considered an automatic acceptance of all the terms and conditions that go along with driving, including going to court; possession of a license is an automatic agreement to take a breathalyzer when instructed, for example.
But as I understand it New York's license is more akin to a passport or "national ID" type of thing, so more strings attached maybe?
"I don't know what state this could be" I couldn't tell on my phone screen earlier, I see now it is a Florida license. Explains everything right there. Florida Man is always up to shit!
It's bullshit, but if you're pulled over by a cop you're being "detained" by default. It's different from a cop talking to you on the street, where you have no obligation to give him the time of day.
Wrong, wrong, and wrong my friend. Any time an officer approaches you in an official capacity you are being legally detained. You are under the same requirements to cooperate, produce identification, and are even subject to being frisked on the sidewalk as anywhere else. Those requirements do include the officer needing to have what's known as "probable cause" to stop you, same as a traffic stop.
Of course if you simply walk past him and he says "hello" you do not legally have to respond, it's just polite.
Where is "around here?" That philosophy (I can't think of the word I really want to use) has been challenged and upheld in courts all around the country.
Please understand I mean if the cop has a valid reason to detain you, but he needs a valid reason to turn on his lights behind you in a car too.
Yeah got it. I read that as "ROTC". Oops. Yep Canadia is a little different story. Seems like refusing to give a cop the time of day up there would get you arrested for being impolite?
Anyways, he is within some legal right but he misinterpreted it to fit his own idea which:
1. Doesn't work
2. Never will work
3. Makes him (and if you do this) an asshole
And furthermore, the cop is not going to stand there on the side of the dangerous road, squinting through the glass, and shouting into his radio over the traffic noise while he tries to call in your license information; he will take your license back to his cruiser with or without you in cuffs.
But as I understand it New York's license is more akin to a passport or "national ID" type of thing, so more strings attached maybe?
Of course if you simply walk past him and he says "hello" you do not legally have to respond, it's just polite.
Not around here, at least according to my local RCMP.
Please understand I mean if the cop has a valid reason to detain you, but he needs a valid reason to turn on his lights behind you in a car too.
People only say "It's a free country" when they do something bad.
No, they say it when they do something disagreeable.
Is that on purpose?