It is so hard to give people certain freedoms in an age when so many people only think in license and entitlement. I've known a few guys and one girl brought up on rape charges, all of which were exonerated, but it took years to clear their names. I know several girls who admittedly would use this law as license to kill a man/woman during sex. But they are not the norm, and this law needed to happen.
And what about murderers who gonna kill people then make it looks like they were getting raped
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· 7 years ago
If the minimum amount of force leads to the death of the rapist, I don't think the rape victim should be punished, so long as they can prove they used the minimum amout of force. This goes for all genders, both of the rapist and the victim
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· 7 years ago
And of course if they can prove they were actually being raped, forgot to add that
Any violation of one's basic rights perhaps warrants this. Let's go, though, with the fact that pregnancy has many risks and sometimes results in death. Could that not then be considered attempted murder? What about the psychological component?
what if you just killed someone and claimed he was raping you?
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· 7 years ago
I wish that when an opportunity for a debate is presented, both sides get a fair say but unfortunately it's looking like if you don't completely agree with this you're just gonna get downvoted. I'm a little disappointed that we couldn't all have a reasonable discussion without the silent lurkers downvoting everything that they don't agree with.
Rape is rampant in Russia, to the point that the police can't really do anything do to being overwhelmed and/or part of the problem. This law is ment to scare predators (and would be predators) into thinking twice about committing assults. This is Russia's way of literally allowing it's citizens to take the law in their own hands because the government is powerless to protect its women. Yes, there's the possibly of murders being planned, but the same can be said of any right-to-kill law (it's up to Russia's legal system to determine if it was really murder). Sadly, nothing will probably change. If a woman could stop an attack, she would. In that panicked moment, women don't let it happen because they're afraid of hurting the rapist to the point of killing him. She is a helpless victim, powerless to stop the attack and her government is basically telling her: If she's able to put the rapist down, good on her. If she can't, oh well.
You have the right to defend yourself more than just repel an attack. You don't know if a robber will leave the encounter at taking your wallet, or a rapist at "just" rape. If killing someone is what it takes to stop the rape or assault, I say that's justified. If you kill someone as he's running away, that's not the same as defense, but sorry rapists and assailants, people get to stop you, and their defense may not be 100% proportional to your attack.
57 y.o. Man here
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· 7 years ago
I dunno, that's a tough one. While I agree rape is an atrocious crime, I don't know if it deserves death.... I can't really speak because my life (thankfully) hasn't been affected by it, but it still seems like a very tricky one.
It's not the death penalty though. It's killing in order to self defend. And to save himself, he's still able to let go of her and escape.
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· 7 years ago
True, but it would have to be judged well as to whether or not the killing was unnecessary. If it's policed well (which unfortunately I doubt in Russia) then it could work.
Hey, why was I downvoted for not having a strong opinion on the subject. I don't have the knowledge or the experience to make a call as I stated, what the hell's the problem with that? If you've got something to say, say it, but downvoting doesn't add anything. It's a controversial subject and if you don't agree with me, good, share your opinion. I actually think it's healthy to hear a different opinion every once and a while.
I tried to conter-upvote it, but apparently that didn't help
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· 7 years ago
I appreciate it. At least you tried to have a reasonable discussion unlike most people
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· 7 years ago
I can not think of how many ill minded bitches will kill someone just because of rage and then blame the dead raped him, no witnesses and she walks free murdering a man. At what point should it a interaction should be labeled "rape". Imagine a guy just stops someone for directions and she kills him just because it's night. Who will judge that a given interaction is dangerous and the man is going hostile and she should kill him.Are there any guidelines for when can she kills him?
Don't take me wrong, The law is all great and good, rapists are the worst, but it's also highly misusable.
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· 7 years ago
Imagine a situation , a women is walking with headphones on at night and is carrying a thing which can kill someone in one hit to the head. If a car is coming towards her and a guy grabs her to push her away from car and she hits him in the head then what?
This situation if highly unlikely to happen but it's just an example.
(If someone downvotes this, please care enough to explain their thoughts and point)
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· 7 years ago
Ok whoever is downvoting, you're blind dude
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· 7 years ago
I find it very amusing that expressing a opinion on this website and then asking someone to explain if they think it's otherwise, its very wrong according to these people. I have clearly stated that if you're going to disagree then please do share your own point. But nahhh dude, they don't like sharing there own point but the other dude is wrong, downvote him.
57 y.o. Man here
Don't take me wrong, The law is all great and good, rapists are the worst, but it's also highly misusable.
This situation if highly unlikely to happen but it's just an example.
(If someone downvotes this, please care enough to explain their thoughts and point)