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sm19
· 6 years ago
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That would be me omg. *poke poke poke*
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spazz
· 6 years ago
well, I mean, he is showing him that the technique has a lot of flaws.
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guest_
· 6 years ago
It's slow motion. Drive a car towards someone at 1mph and they'll likely easily evade. Now do it at 80mph while they're distracted and see if they are able to have time to playfully dance before jumping out of the way. The same technique and application is used by the driver both times, it's the speed and force which are different as is the emotional and mental state of the pedestrian. That's why real violence tends to be fast and brutal and isn't done in slow motion. Not to say one couldn't do what the student did- but it's less likely if both people were moving at full speed and force, and the teacher had the element of surprise.
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cakelover
· 6 years ago
Even so, he should gain control of the knife hand
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spazz
· 6 years ago
Slo-mo or not, in the split second he might tackle the dude or something, he might have a knife lodged in his side or even just a deep gash. The point is to minimalise risk to yourself as much as possible.
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guest
· 6 years ago
Slow motion or not, he completely ignored the hand with the knife in it. Getting close to someone with a knife and leaving the hand with the knife completely free is a bad idea, as demonstrated by the assistant. A friend of mine had someone pull a knife on him at a party. He got cut across the face, stabbed in the back of his shoulder, and stabbed in the lower back before anyone even realized what was going on. The whole thing was over in under 3 seconds. Even at full speed that guy would have been stabbed multiple times.
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guest_
· 6 years ago
No. I agree. Whatever is going on there he is not controlling the arm. Knifes suck to fight against. Even with years of training. You'll almost always get cut. There's no "never" in self defense because it all depends on the situation and the moment, but you generally want to avoid the knife and knife hand. No where to grab that isn't likely going to hurt you. You can control the arm which is still dangerous but it's a knife- it's all dangerous. So what I see looks bad. But I don't see the rest. I have no idea if he was about to address the camera with a step by step tip, or was breaking down each movement and that was one of many. I can't say much for his technique other than what I see there isnt something I'd try. I can say that many techniques will put you in danger for a moment. Many weapon defense techniques require stepping INTO the strike, the point is to minimize that moment of danger through speed, timing, force, or other control.
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guest_
· 6 years ago
Tl:dr- the point was a general point. It's hard to tell what is or isn't effective unless it's deployed with maximum force and speed. The only conclusion I can draw from a short clip like that without more info is that I wouldn't do exactly what he's doing there in a real situation, but I can't say bad or good about him without learning more.
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mrdad01
· 6 years ago
As someone who has survived such an attack, with intent to kill, what I did was use the attackers force against them, once I had their arm pinned under mine I used a pressure point in the wrist to disarm them. Granted yes is was somewhat a desperation move as I'd already been pretty badly wounded but it was effective enough to buy me some time to escape.
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guest_
· 6 years ago
Your here, it worked. It's easy to woulda coulda shoulda later. I'm glad you made it. Using their force or weight against them is a great tactic that underpins many styles and defenses. It's also great if size and strength are against you, or factors like age or injury limit options. The number 1 goal in a knife attack is to get that knife away from you. The further you are from a knife, the happier you are- not that I need to tell you that. For all the hype if you're defending and not attacking most fights are going to start or end with a desperation move unless you've trained your heart out for that scenario. practice doesn't make perfect, perfect practice makes partially prepared. The real world is chaos, knives are small and fast. Anyone I know who's been in a real knife threat including me has walked away with a scar save one guy. He wasn't the target and had surprise and training on his side though.
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mrdad01
· 6 years ago
Well considering they had a 70+ pound advantage on me, if they had pinned me down I'd have been screwed or should I say skewered. I managed to get away with several dozen cuts to my left arm/hand and a stab between two ribs. By the time that knife ended up in a nearby pond and they pulled their other knife (like I said intent to kill me) the police arrived and had the attacker at shotgun point while I collapsed from a mix of wounds and an anxiety attack. I still have issues with certain kinds of knives that have the same blade type (its common)
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guest_
· 6 years ago
Damn. I'm extra glad you made it. That deck was super stacked against you. No one can blame you for having trauma. People think not being effected by things makes you "hard" when in fact most people are just hiding it or in denial. You're lucky- blessed, whatever you prefer. The recovery must have sucked.
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mrdad01
· 6 years ago
It was annoying to say the least. I've just now gotten to the point that I can actually talk about it a little without having flashbacks it took me six years to finally seek counseling, and another two to get me emotionally stable about it. I still get nervous around pocket knives though. I tried to 'be a man' about it because it was a domestic dispute and 'men are never the victim of that' plus I had to appear 'well adjusted' in order to get custody of my kid, even with all the evidence and everything else, I had to sell my car and lost my apartment due to medical and legal bills. Ended up moving back home after all that and inherited it when one parent passed away in 2016. So yeah, life has thoroughly worked me over in the last decade and forgot the lube every single time! I would live it all again just to have my kid though, being a father has given me every reason to plow through whatever shit comes my way!
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bethorien
· 6 years ago
I send to you alllllll of the digital hugs.
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guest_
· 6 years ago
That's a hell of a road and a raw deal. But that's a good way to look at it I think. We all pay our "dues" to life one way or another. If that was the road that brought you here, alive and in custody of your kid- you won. Society tries to hammer people hard with ideas about weakness and masculinity, being vulnerable in any way can be used to try to tear a man down. You took some hard hits though and at your most vulnerable and injured you carried the extra weight of keeping it together for your child. You still got up, worked hard to recover, did what needed done, got more piled on you, and STILL bounced back. It's a road. You aren't the same as you were before it all happened. No. You're stronger than ever and tested, steeled, and verified as a solid father, a strong man, and a survivor. You know who you really are when things go bad in ways most people never will. I'm sorry for the pain, but respect to you and best wishes from here our life at least used a little spit time to time.
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i_
· 6 years ago
Why in gods name would you ever try for a knife disarm. That's probably the worst thing you could do besides just walking right into the outstretched blade.
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