Every day that this continues confirms that neither side cares about us. They only care about thwarting the infamous "THEM". They dont care about our people they care about rhetoric and votes.
We literally had a deal 2 days before and then Donalds supporters threw a hissy fit about the damn wall and he slapped it back on the table. I LIVE IN TEXAS a border state and ive worked with illegal aliens. Hard working bunch. A wall is not the answer nor should it be who we are as a people were better than that. Both sides are using rhetoric entirely based in fear. Freedom dies in darkness. A darkness caused by the shadow of fear.
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And the biggest joke is that with the shutdown INS and border patrol ect are basically shut down. They have literally accomplished the exact opposite of their goal.
Actually they had a vote to end the shutdown and only 6 Democrats voted for it. Neither dems of reps care about the people they care about the other side looking bad
If they refuse to do their job, every one of them should be removed from office and emergency reelections held. This is beyond asinine. Hundreds of thousands of people are working without pay for a month. Obviously they don't care about the people they are supposed to SERVE. They seem to forget, they are in those positions to serve the people, not themselves, and NOT to rule. Every day they are destroying more lives.
Thank you. Doing ok.
And I just wanted to comment that hostage taking is not ok; and giving in to people who take hostages is also not ok, because it creates the precedent that hostage taking is ok.
hi, long term lurker, wanted to nip a topic in the bud before it blooms into something bad, FDA inspection 'shut down' does not mean your food is not inspected. FDA sets regulations on things how different foods are inspected, whats legal etc. your food is still inspected. food companies (including produce) are legally required to hire people to inspect their food whether or not the government is shut down. I'm also getting my IPM (pesticide application) license and theres a surprisingly high tolerance for produce (tolerance = how much pesticide can be left on the produce when it gets shipped out) so still wash ya veggies and fruits peeps :) (also side note I don't mean to be demeaning in the parenthesis I swear I just know it isn't common knowledge for most)
I always figure, whether it's common knowledge or not, people would wash it because other people have touched it lol But good looking out. Just because one knows something doesn't mean all do :)
hola, I cant wait to see how many thumbs down this gets and by all means go for it but please read the whole thing before hating on me. I voted for trump. there I said it. but heres the thing: I don't really like him as a person and think he should just shut the fuck up a lot of the time. I do think hes better than Hillary though and I think we are at a better place than we would have been. I'm not hating on Hillary, just stating my opinion and I know yall are all about that. I voted for the lesser evil in my mind. and he has actually done some good for the country if you look past the curtain of shit people have been throwing at him, with mostly good reason, for example he recently made it easier for people with a criminal record for a minor crime to get jobs, which in affect helps the unemployment rate, which has also gotten better. so with no tea no shade no pink lemonade I encourage yall to get the facts before you add onto or start an argument
You know you can just reply to your own comment, yes? You don't have to start a separate chain re-introducing yourself.
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As a side note-- the purpose of this post really wasn't to start arguments. I really just hate the way the people/animals are being treated because of political bullshit. While I know this is right up there with an "our thoughts and prayers are with you" shtick, there's not much more I can personally do for people suffering right now, other than acknowledge their plight, and let them know they haven't been forgotten
I have quite a few friends that are pawning things, asking friends and family for help, trying to go to food banks, and getting by with absolutely nothing. Bill companies don’t care about the government shutdown. Hungry children don’t care about the government shutdown. Pregnant women don’t care. This bullshit has gone on long enough. End this fucking temper tantrum and give these people back their paychecks- including their much needed back pay!!
I was reading that there's some resources/repreives being offered in northern California (I think) where phone companies are offering reductions in bills and other things are being done to help the people suffering from this shut down.
So just an FYI there apparently IS a Go-fundme for the employees suffering from the shut-down:
https://www.gofundme.com/govshutdown
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No one is obligated to donate, I donated what I could (not a lot right now I'm afraid..), but I wanted to make the page available just in case
Unfortunately, the Prez doesn’t negotiate in good faith and changes based on which room he’s in. Therefore, although it’s painful, insisting he get it together when only some are affected avoids future painful and larger hissy fits. He will always be willing to let others suffer; he has a documented history of always done so. People who know this and voted for him anyway are betting THEY won’t come onto the chopping block. But giving in because he’s unreasonably childish and obdurate doesn’t fix the central issue any more than it would with any three year old. If he could be trusted to have just this one thing, MAYBE. But he can’t. He’ll do anyone dirty, so he can’t be given slack when he says this is his one true live-or-die issue. It’s just tried and true method of being bratty to get more from the other person than they would offer. Since hechimself isn’t in pain, no one important is suffering.
Things that are definetly proven not to work by history and science:
- death penalty
- walls
- unregulated finance systems
- nationalism
On top, if your government refuses to serve you, oppose to it. Go on strike, form demonstrations, do something!
Am I the only one that remembers the government was shutdown back in 2012? Proof that your party doesn't care about you they just care about the other party looking bad
It was only shut down for about half the time this has gone on. Even then it did a hell of a lot of damage to a lot of people. Plenty of people remember it happened, but this is still worse. Maybe if people were more concerned about the actual individuals they elected rather than parties we wouldn't be in this situation.
I think there was no shutdown in 2012? Perhaps you're thinking of the one in 2013?
There have been about 20 shutdowns over the last 40 years -- and this is the third one under Trump. I wonder why the 2013 one stands out.
For one it lasted a relatively long time, weeks rather than the days the others have. For another, it ended in the laying off of a lot of government employees to meet the budget demands.
Yes, and that healthcare bill ended up screwing a lot of people as well, but it was the shut down itself that did almost as much damage. This one is far and away worse, there was no real point. Anyone with common sense should have realized that Trump's promises of a great wall were the equivalent of a middle schooler running for class president promising he would replace water fountains with soda fountains. And he's only promised 3 weeks reprieve.
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And I just wanted to comment that hostage taking is not ok; and giving in to people who take hostages is also not ok, because it creates the precedent that hostage taking is ok.
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As a side note-- the purpose of this post really wasn't to start arguments. I really just hate the way the people/animals are being treated because of political bullshit. While I know this is right up there with an "our thoughts and prayers are with you" shtick, there's not much more I can personally do for people suffering right now, other than acknowledge their plight, and let them know they haven't been forgotten
https://www.gofundme.com/govshutdown
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No one is obligated to donate, I donated what I could (not a lot right now I'm afraid..), but I wanted to make the page available just in case
- death penalty
- walls
- unregulated finance systems
- nationalism
On top, if your government refuses to serve you, oppose to it. Go on strike, form demonstrations, do something!
There have been about 20 shutdowns over the last 40 years -- and this is the third one under Trump. I wonder why the 2013 one stands out.
I live through that one too.