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laughwendylaugh
· 5 years ago
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They are both brave in different ways.
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xboxgorgo18
· 5 years ago
One dies a horrible death with only artillery as support while the other gets a lot of support and a few criticisms
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laughwendylaugh
· 5 years ago
Depends on where you live. There are still parts of this world where same sex kissing will get you beat up and thrown in jail only to disappear without a trace. Risking your life to take a stand for what you believe in can be incredibly brave. There is not just one way to be brave as said by my Grandpa who fought in WWII.
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nicengelman
· 5 years ago
You've got a point. I don't think the argument here though is that the two girls aren't brave, but that they're implying that people that have fought in wars aren't brave.
dave99
· 5 years ago
Sure, they're both brave in different ways, but they are also orders of magnitude apart in terms of the bravery required.
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laughwendylaugh
· 5 years ago
@dave99 I disagree as terms of bravery vary for different people. For some, running onto a battlefield takes little bravery, while others taking a stand knowing that you're going to lose your entire family and your life standing up for your basic human right takes incredible bravery.
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nicengelman
· 5 years ago
By the same logic, for some people taking a stand knowing that you're going to lose your entire family and your life standing up for your basic human rights doesn't take much bravery
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nicengelman
· 5 years ago
And regarding your point about how in some places the consequences for public homosexuality are worse, getting blown the hell up or shot has the same consequences anywhere.
nicengelman
· 5 years ago
No one is arguing that what the women are doing isn't brave, you trying to argue that someone fighting in a war isn't brave is downright offensive
laughwendylaugh
· 5 years ago
@nicengleman Are you speaking to me or @dave99?
nicengelman
· 5 years ago
I'm talking to you, you're literally saying people fighting in a war aren't brave. If you're a coward you flee, you go somewhere you don't have to fight. No one here is saying that overt gays aren't brave, what I'm saying is just because they are brave doesn't mean someone fighting in a war isn't. Those three messages I typed in a row were all in response to the one above it, you need to reread what you said and see if maybe your phrasing wasn't how you meant it, because you just offended the shit out of a lot of people
laughwendylaugh
· 5 years ago
Actually that's not what I said at all. Did I offend the shit out of a lot of people or just you? I never said anything about cowardice or fleeing or anything about going somewhere where you don't have to fight. The phrase of "some people say" means that some people say and not necessarily the person saying it. What I said was that both photos contain equally brave people especially depending on where you live. Doesn't mean that either is cowardly in either way.
nicengelman
· 5 years ago
"For some, running onto a battlefield takes little bravery" literally exactly what you said. I didn't say you said coward, what I was saying is that a person that isn't brave flees battle. They run.
laughwendylaugh
· 5 years ago
Yes, and the men who have said that actually ran onto a battlefield. They think that it took little bravery because they just did it without any thought, hence using the words "For some". Doesn't mean anyone ran away from it.
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nicengelman
· 5 years ago
BTW I'm not even the one of the people downvoting you
laughwendylaugh
· 5 years ago
I didn't think you were.
xboxgorgo18
· 5 years ago
*me watching something else cause I don't wanna get involved with drama between complete strangers*
13579a
· 5 years ago
I just sat there for the longest time thinking, "This is... What?" And then I realized that the images were sequenced. I'm such an idiot.
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littlebluekitti
· 5 years ago
Ah, the good old Suffering Olympics, where nobody wins and the prize is not adequately addressing any real issues. All human beings, both as individuals and groups, have suffered in some way, shape, or form. Have some groups/people suffered more than others? Absolutely. Should we belittle or negate the suffering of others in order to increase the perceived suffering of another group? Absolutely not.
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famousone
· 5 years ago
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kingchris
· 5 years ago
Such a way with words
nicengelman
· 5 years ago
I feel like it's less brave if it's also sexy
zont
· 5 years ago
They can both be considered brave, ffs. Not everything is a competition.
nicengelman
· 5 years ago
I really love that blonde girl's hair though