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famousone
· 5 years ago
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Lady, I won't force you to get the kids vaccinated, but I'm not going to respect you or be particularly pleasant, either.
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interesting
· 5 years ago
She has a right and a freedom to take care of her children as she sees fit. However, I also have the freedom to think or tell her I think shes dumb as fuck.
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bethorien
· 5 years ago
That freedom only extends to just beyond the edge of child neglect which the vast majority of people would consider not vaccinating a child who could get said vaccination
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famousone
· 5 years ago
I don't like it. At all. But I like using the force of the state to threaten people into putting things inside their bodies even less.
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bethorien
· 5 years ago
The thing about that is that antivaxers are actively dangerous to everyone else. Not just some "oh their kid might die because of this." Someone else's kid might die from it. Other people's kids HAVE died from it.
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famousone
· 5 years ago
Then punish them for it.
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bethorien
· 5 years ago
Can't punish them for it if you don't have a law saying you can't do it, which in turn would be "the government forcing them to put things in themselves"
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famousone
· 5 years ago
Not quite. Mandating someone gets vaccinated is very different from punishing someone for manslaughter.
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scatmandingo
· 5 years ago
The problem with requiring vaccinations or punishing for not getting them is that there are actual cases of vaccine injuries and they aren’t a one in a million thing, they are just statistically worth the risk. Parents should get an individual choice, without direct legal repercussions, regarding whether to vaccinate their kids. That being said, I think the idea of not allowing some services to unvaxxed kids to be perfectly reasonable.
sunflowers
· 5 years ago
Good for those people who posted this pic. Vaccines save lives. And lol "WhY tHe NaMe CaLLinG?" What are you, four? I can assure that your kids will ask you what it's like to be four, because they'll never know. Bye.
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dr_richard_ew
· 5 years ago
Translation: Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
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xvarnah
· 5 years ago
I read it more as "reeeeeeeeeeeee" but at the end of the day it's all the same
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guest_
· 5 years ago
Nuance of language. Issac Newton believed he could predict the future with numerology of biblical passages. The guy who theorized natural selection and evolution (then sent his papers to Darwin who got the credit,) Believed he could speak to the dead. Many “great” minds have believed in the occult, super natural, and other far out theories or things that were scientifically disproven or not supported.
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guest_
· 5 years ago
So I mean- it’s not really fair to call Issac Newton a moron when you look at his body of work. But- he certainly held some moronic beliefs. I haven’t seen any proof vaccines are bad. But let’s say there were some type of evidence? If Issac Newton or so many others can be wrong- couldn’t you? So the nuance is that being antivax may not make you a moron- but it is certainly moronic. Surprisingly it is often intelligent people who believe the most moronic things. It’s called confirmation bias. But being “intelligent” means that you are usually good at convincing yourself and others you are right. You are likely used to being right. So when you believe something that is demonstratively wrong or most likely wrong- you’re less likely to see yourself as wrong and more likely to see everyone else as wrong.
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guest_
· 5 years ago
Tl:dr- you can do moronic things without being a moron just as one can do intelligent things without being intelligent. Calling in fake sick to work once doesn’t make you a dishonest person if you’re otherwise honest- it’s a dishonest act. All credible reviewed evidence says vaccines are safe- or at least less risk than not vaccinating. Thinking you’re smarter than the majority of experts in the field generally is moronic, unless you can prove them wrong. To date- no one has. You’re gambling with lives. It doesn’t take a genius to tell you that (IF it’s true,) An increased chance of cancer in 40 odd years or autism risk are still less of a risk than dying of a preventable disease- or killing someone else by being a carrier.
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rosalinas
· 5 years ago
"research"? done by whom? stay-home Karens? no thanks.
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