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novelus
· 4 years ago
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Or what God did with Sodom and Gommora. Or what God did with the flood. Or even what God did by giving up Jesus to die on the Cross. There are plenty of things, including a whole bunch of yet to come stuff from the Book of Revelations.
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dr_richard_ew
· 4 years ago
Let's not even begin to describe what happened with Abraham and Isaac
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jokur_and_batmon
· 4 years ago
Or if we’re going completely on the definition of “god plans everything” that’d mean he planned every murder ever...
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cryoenthusiast
· 4 years ago
or worse every fucking ever.
jokur_and_batmon
· 4 years ago
That sounds more like something Zeus would do but he’s gone now
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savage_demmigod
· 4 years ago
And good riddance
jokur_and_batmon
· 4 years ago
Hey I love superdave more than the next guy but that’s a little harsh
savage_demmigod
· 4 years ago
I realise this. Unfortunately I didn't know Zeus's all too well and with all that's happened my perspective is probably quite skewed. But yes, I definitely didn't mean to come across so harshly
bethorien
· 4 years ago
I saw a lot of Zeus back in the day. Zeus actively lied to the community and individuals on many occasions about things both important and inconsequential even down to lying about having changed a user setting for someone.
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jokur_and_batmon
· 4 years ago
I’ve never paid the gods much more attention than annoying them takes
guest_
· 4 years ago
It’s all in definitions right? What does the commandment say? You shall not MURDER, not you shall not KILL. in a religious sense God can’t murder anyone because Murder implies that it is somehow unlawful or unjustified and in religion- God is the supreme authority and cannot do “bad” because whatever makes god happy is “good” and “bad” is just what god doesn’t like.
guest_
· 4 years ago
Then we have to look at “god has a plan...” That doesn’t inherently mean that god micromanaged everything in the universe. “The big 3” God religions make it pretty clear there’s some measure of free will. God KNOWS what you’ll do but doesn’t make you do it. God could stop you but that’s at the discretion of an all knowing being right?
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guest_
· 4 years ago
So say you plan to go to the beach with Suzy- you’ll get a good meal and enjoy the day. You picture taking your car, leaving at 8, grabbing eggs at that place you like. Ok. Suzy sleeps in. Your car won’t start. The two of you leave at noon. You take the bus. You grab some hot dogs from a vendor near the beach. They are awesome. You end up having a great day. Things didn’t go the way you wanted- but in the end your “plan” was done. Go to the beach, with Suzy, have a good meal, enjoy your day. All of that happened. So “God has a plan” could just mean that no matter what happens- in the end everything ends up right where it is supposed to be no matter what a bunch of free willed monkeys do.
guest_
· 4 years ago
And if you could see the future like Dr. strange- every version ever- and you could see that in every future things worked out fine- what would you have to worry about? Nothing. You know in the end despite the details it all goes to plan. Doesn’t mean some things won’t puss you off or annoy you on the way- just means it will end up fine.
garlog
· 4 years ago
Theoretically yes, bu that could also apply to any murder, so its a moot point.
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nerd_word
· 4 years ago
Or when he killed almost every living thing on the planet with the flood
meggora2009
· 4 years ago
But....technically wasn't it planned for his son to die?
