well, they would be in danger of eating tide pods but only the first gorilla to do it in each information sharing group, they dont have the benefit of knowing contextually what "Tide" is or what laundry is
hence the adeptness towards sign language. They still have to be taught, but they can... it also helps that they can use that to talk while they're chewing; since they eat A LOT.
I don’t know what the stats are in gorillas, but in chimps, you’re not wrong. Unless you are a very smart human, the average chimpanzee has you solidly outclassed in IQ and problem-solving skills.
also im realizing coming back to this comment section that they likely wouldnt just put it straight in their mouth, they'd taste it and, being basically a soap pod, they would probably not even do more than break it open, smell it, and lick it before they threw it out and labeled it as "not food"
on the topic of IQ tho
i would really like to see an experiment done where a group of primates, be it gorillas or chimps or whatever, are taught sign language as an entire group and then a generation later the children being taught the language both from their parents and humans which later is used to give them something akin to a formal human child's education. See how far their understanding can go. Do it a few times with the same group of primates generation after generation and see if you can eventually get a group of them that understand what we teach in highschool at the same level as your average human student
It’s not a debate. There are multiple studies. In raw IQ terms, chimps win. The evolutionary advantage humans have is primarily in social behaviors and developmental staging, plus better endurance/healing and more different-biome adaptability. Most primates just aren’t gonna do well outside their native biome, whereas pursuit predation just kinda means you’re going outside your comfort zone sometimes.
@inspectora Yes. The fact it's even a question is highly suspect.
and what abel said. Really think it through; the most dominant branch of animals on the planet were dinosaurs; ruling for, literally, millions of years. That same stupidity stopped them from blowing themselves up; it took a comet to do that; and they also learned how to fly. Social interaction only gets us so far; we are frail little beings and on our own most of us die within 21 days. It's 100% our adaptability and communication powers that allow us to thrive.... which, in a lot of ways, is a bad thing. We consume and consume and consume; eventually we will run out of resources; that's an immutable fact. What do we do then?
How little you know. The dinosaurs were killed when one of their great scientists was snubbed for tenure, denied a federal grant, and lost international science award to a young female sauropod who posted her angry rant about global cooling on Facebook. So distraught, he lost touch with reality and expanded to autonomous robotic space travel. Within 10 years his robotic work force had built a utopia upon a near earth asteroid.
As he approached the science center to reveal his accomplishments, he was attacked by a flat earth protest group and killed. Following a "dead man" protocol, the space robots exited to solar system to colonize other worlds. As they passed the kuiper belt, a thrust adjustment satellite was deployed which nudged a large asteroid into impact orbit with earth.
Thus heralding the end of the dinosaurs and proving for a third time, "people with ambition, need a little recognition, for the work they did for you yesterday; and if you do not care, who it was that got there, then in the ashes you can play."
People think hell is fire and brimstone (thanks Shaky doofus and you're speare) It's not. It's cold, empty and your own thoughts; that last part is what separates it from limbo. In limbo there's still a way out; in Hell no matter how much you repent; it doesn't matter. God decides that. Of course I'd wanna go to Hell and throw a party to end all parties; wasn't me who said it didn't matter.
on the topic of IQ tho
i would really like to see an experiment done where a group of primates, be it gorillas or chimps or whatever, are taught sign language as an entire group and then a generation later the children being taught the language both from their parents and humans which later is used to give them something akin to a formal human child's education. See how far their understanding can go. Do it a few times with the same group of primates generation after generation and see if you can eventually get a group of them that understand what we teach in highschool at the same level as your average human student
and what abel said. Really think it through; the most dominant branch of animals on the planet were dinosaurs; ruling for, literally, millions of years. That same stupidity stopped them from blowing themselves up; it took a comet to do that; and they also learned how to fly. Social interaction only gets us so far; we are frail little beings and on our own most of us die within 21 days. It's 100% our adaptability and communication powers that allow us to thrive.... which, in a lot of ways, is a bad thing. We consume and consume and consume; eventually we will run out of resources; that's an immutable fact. What do we do then?
As he approached the science center to reveal his accomplishments, he was attacked by a flat earth protest group and killed. Following a "dead man" protocol, the space robots exited to solar system to colonize other worlds. As they passed the kuiper belt, a thrust adjustment satellite was deployed which nudged a large asteroid into impact orbit with earth.