I always say that rape and abuse are never joking matters and both sexes can be survivors at any age, I still catch some derogatory remarks because I didn't 'fight back' against my ex when she tried to filet me like a fish. Sad thing is had I fought back I would have spent a lot more time in jail than the one day she did plus she would've likely turned on our then four month old and killed him.
Jokes are funny, even some of the ones about rape. But the jokes should take advantage of how horrible it is, not try to lessen the act's validity as an atrocity.
I think he means that you use humor to broach discussion of a topic that many are uncomfortable discussing, to make it easier for the discussion to begin.
There are way too many men and boys who actually believe this because their fathers, uncles, brothers and friends--and yes, though usually on a lesser scale, their mothers, aunts, and sisters--don't take their responsibility to protect them seriously and laugh at their pain.
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· 7 years ago
I was gonna start screeching at you until I read it.
I don't want to sound like a douchebag here, but the ones who pressured him into seeing rape as a funny thing were all boys. If he was able to open up to a woman (or even a female classmate at the time), she would probably be a lot more empathic and would legitimately try to help him.
What I'm trying to say is, most men find rape hilarious because it mostly doesn't happen to them, they can't relate to how horrible it is. Most of them have no idea that even walking down the street alone at night might be scary, because every man you see could probably overpower you. Which is why the few male rape victims like this guy suffer emotionally more than most female rape victims, because instead of empathy, they get laughed at by their peers.
Yeah, if someone could respond instead of blindly pressing thumbs down like an angry sheep, that would be great.
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· 7 years ago
I up voted you because you're 100% right. You see, men aren't taught that they'll potentially be raped or sexually assaulted in their lives. They're not taught they're potential victims. They're not taught that if they walk alone or at night something bad will happen to them. It's a sad world we live in.
Thanks :) exactly, which is why they're a lot more shocked when it happens to them, and may suffer more psychologically. I'm not saying it's a good thing that women are used to being potentially harrassed, but it's reality. I think that nearly every woman experiences some form of harrassment in her life, even if it's just catcalling (which, as the feminazis say should be considered the same offense as rape – I don't agree with that, catcalling isn't dangerous, but it is annoying af). I remember reading some story on the internet about a straight guy being whistled at by a gay guy, and he was very shocked and offended by that, because for the first time he knew what it's like to be treated that way. I don't know if that story is even true, after all it's the internet, but it sounds like it totally could've happened. And that was only a whistle. Imagine this shock times a million, along with the mental scars that obviously accompany being raped.
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Exactly. All sexual harassment and rape is bad, no matter which sex you are or whichever sex it's done by. Being whistled at and catcalled is just irritating but not dangerous as you said, but when something happens to you in your personal space, it's a lot worse violation. It's never ever ok. It's never something to joke about. I think both boys and girls should be taught the same way about this subject. That they're both potential victims and both to know that NO means NO. I think it's sad that we even have to teach this kind of thing really.
See, here is where I have a problem, yes guys are not told that they can be a potential victim of rape, which leaves them even more venerable than women in some cases. They aren't told to take care when walking alone, they aren't taught how to defend against it, and they aren't told how to get help, and are ridiculed by people when they say they have been raped, "All the guys would call me 'faggot' for not enjoying it." This is where I have a problem. Guys are not told anything about rape, we may be told the consequences of it, but we are never told anything about being the victims. And with the "not being able to open up to women emotionally" thing, most of that is not because it's a woman that raped the male, but because a worryingly large amount of rape cases have been discounted because "Men can't be victims of rape," by women, men as well, but there is also the gender stereotype of bottling up feelings and problems to seem less weak.
I 100% agree with the bottling up feelings part. The whole "men don't cry" stereotype ultimately leads to self-destructive behavior as the feelings you've bottled up may explode sooner or later (case in point my dad who gets a lot of shit at work and then spends half of the evening yelling at me and mom when he comes home).
Though I'm not sure about the "men can't be victims of rape" part, as I already said I think women are more empathic when it comes to this and maybe opening up to a woman may be better than to a man, because we know what it's like. But again I'm just theoretizing, I've had no experience with this type of situation where a guy would try to open up to me about being raped, so I can't know the truth and I appreciate your point of view. There probably are women who legitimately think that men can't be raped, and probably even some feminazis who would laugh at you for it and call the rapist "empowered". But those are horrible people and you need to stay away from them.
What I'm trying to say is, most men find rape hilarious because it mostly doesn't happen to them, they can't relate to how horrible it is. Most of them have no idea that even walking down the street alone at night might be scary, because every man you see could probably overpower you. Which is why the few male rape victims like this guy suffer emotionally more than most female rape victims, because instead of empathy, they get laughed at by their peers.
Though I'm not sure about the "men can't be victims of rape" part, as I already said I think women are more empathic when it comes to this and maybe opening up to a woman may be better than to a man, because we know what it's like. But again I'm just theoretizing, I've had no experience with this type of situation where a guy would try to open up to me about being raped, so I can't know the truth and I appreciate your point of view. There probably are women who legitimately think that men can't be raped, and probably even some feminazis who would laugh at you for it and call the rapist "empowered". But those are horrible people and you need to stay away from them.