It was replaced in 1956 with "In God We Trust" signifying that they only care if you trust in god e.g. if you are a Christian.
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I have a nickel in my pocket, minted in 1956. It says " In God we trust" on one side, and "e pluribus unum" on the other side.
So, regardless of the motive, it wasn't replaced, just added upon.
First Amendment people. Down vote them like sniveling children all you want, but the First Amendment guarantees the separation of church and state.
This isn't some little known, hardly enforced federal statute, this is an amendment to the constitution from the Bill of Rights.
Can you change it? Sure... we've done it before. Do you remember what happened? Prohibition. THAT'S what happens when you legislate religiously morality.
In God we trust on the money?
Unconstitutional.
One nation under God, indivisible, ect.?
Unconstitutional.
10 commandment plaques in court houses?
Unconstitutional.
That motto refers to the many states. The in God we trust could be little g, denoting any god of your choosing. The two sayings have absolutely nothing to do with each other.
It always means supporting all equally. If you allow a Christian prayer at a legal meeting means that you allow a pagan. And Islamic. And Hindu. And any other religion anyone wants to partake in. Want to add The Ten Commandments? Add the 11 Satanic Rules of The Earth. And The Ten Instructions of Islam. If you show support towards one religion then you have to show support to all religions which is why it is unrealistic to allow such things.
no it doesn't. It just means that Congress won't establish a state religion, and cannot prohibit you from practicing your own religion. The government doesn't have to support all religions equally.
Yes, it does. Do you not know the very basics of the USA? If privileges are given to one religion then the same privileges must be given to the others.
To read it all is rather time consuming but the Separation of Church and State is that "the state is prohibited from shaping, directing, or framing the religious beliefs of the individual citizen" and giving favor to one religion and not another would be very much shaping, directing, AND framing the religious beliefs of a citizen.
Sir spiderman...you do realize that other religions besides christians believe in god. Like pretty much ALL of them.
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Just to jump back to the "in God we trust" thing:
I went through my amateur coin collection. I have some wheat pennies from 1941 and '42. They both say "In God we trust" on them.
Just my 2 cents.
Freedom from religion is established just as well as freedom of religion in the 1st amendment. It's been ruled upon countless times. The only reason the "in god we trust" hasn't been fixed is because it would cost a lot more instead of just phasing it out of circulation. The "under god" in the pledge has never gotten to the SC, but if it did it would be ruled unconstitutional as well.
I've gone over the 10 commandments before here I'm pretty sure, but 7-8 of them are flat out unconstitutional. Theft and murder being the only two that unequivocally have any basis in secular law.
"The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, ensuring that there is no prohibition on the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble, or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances." I don't see freedom from religion in there. Use of public monies to erect religious monuments is prohibited, telling a man he cannot pray in a government building is prohibited.
freedom from religion is established in the exact same wording freedom of religion is. It states "shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" which basically means when making laws they have to act as if religion doesn't even freaking exist.
It's not like religions hadn't established themselves before the constitution was written; it means from any sort of church that might want to govern. The very first thing thing that clause does is give the government freedom FROM religion; that freedom obviously extends to individuals.
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Aren't both of those hands black or is my vision starting to go?
The only color that matters is green. That's why they don't want us unified. Let's face it, Charlottesville should have been local news at most, I'm not saying it wasn't a shit situation, but if it hadn't served to further divide the country along racial lines, MSM wouldn't have latched on so heavily to it.
There's a lot of truth to this. Same can be said about the R vs D. I think its mostly manufactured to keep us from realizing that we no longer live in a democracy or representative republuc. It's more of an Oligarchy...
Still like that South Park episode where it says all races are really all different species put onto a planet for a reality show to watch us fight. *sigh* if only that were true
So, regardless of the motive, it wasn't replaced, just added upon.
This isn't some little known, hardly enforced federal statute, this is an amendment to the constitution from the Bill of Rights.
Can you change it? Sure... we've done it before. Do you remember what happened? Prohibition. THAT'S what happens when you legislate religiously morality.
In God we trust on the money?
Unconstitutional.
One nation under God, indivisible, ect.?
Unconstitutional.
10 commandment plaques in court houses?
Unconstitutional.
To read it all is rather time consuming but the Separation of Church and State is that "the state is prohibited from shaping, directing, or framing the religious beliefs of the individual citizen" and giving favor to one religion and not another would be very much shaping, directing, AND framing the religious beliefs of a citizen.
You may want to read the whole thing, as it defends the 10 commandments in courthouses and the motto "in God we trust".
https://www.americanbar.org/publications/gp_solo/2014/november_december/religious_equality_the_american_national_order.html
I went through my amateur coin collection. I have some wheat pennies from 1941 and '42. They both say "In God we trust" on them.
Just my 2 cents.
I've gone over the 10 commandments before here I'm pretty sure, but 7-8 of them are flat out unconstitutional. Theft and murder being the only two that unequivocally have any basis in secular law.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_God_We_Trust
It's not like religions hadn't established themselves before the constitution was written; it means from any sort of church that might want to govern. The very first thing thing that clause does is give the government freedom FROM religion; that freedom obviously extends to individuals.
Because that would be a shame.