she's a school shooting survivor that's lead protests and marches to instigate gun control that actually succeeded in Florida with a new law being passed making more stringent background checks and longer waiting periods for gun purchases and harsher punishments for illegal possession of guns and raising the minimum age for gun purchasing to 21.
She didn’t exactly try to justify bullying him, nor did she say she had bullied him. She was speaking about how there were clear signs he was dangerous, and that these signs had been reported repeatedly but ignored. She said that in context to what students had seen that no one who knew him was surprised. She also stated she was “no psychologist” but mental health issues or not, “he wouldn’t have been able to hurt that many people with just a knife.” The sentiments were echoed by another student who elaborated and said that people claiming students could have prevented the shooting by “..being nicer to him was like a slap in the face..” Her bravery is the bravery of a survivor and anyone speaking of a traumatic experience publicly. I might not agree with her in all areas, but I can respect that she went through a traumatic experience and has strong feelings. Wether feelings should be the primary guide of a discussion is another matter, but I will give that she has passion.
That's all well and good, and Im not disrespecting whatever it is she tried to do, but so far it sounds like she survived an incident because she was forced into that incident, and her only options were survive or die. Not because she made a choice to be there. And once there, it doesn't imply she was trying to help anyone else, or get others to safety, or anything like that. She just was in the place she was in and something terrifying happened. Surviving a situation like that makes you strong, but not necessarily exceedingly brave. And then she organized protests about gun control. Which does take courage, but not necessarily an outlandish amount more than a lot of other people
She's almost certainly braver than me, but I can think of dozens upon dozens of people braver than her based on what's been said about her so far, and I don't understand why the OP in the post even brought that comparison up in such a provocative manner
I once egged a guy... he started chasing me, ran thru a few yards and then I looked at him like I was helping him find the guy who egged him. He was also second trombone; I was first chair. I also fucked his sister like 3 years later.
There seem to be a lot of guests lurking around trying to start shit on this website lately. Or maybe it's the same couple over and over that literally turn up to say something insanely negative for no particular reason and then vanish back into the dark.
Either way, I feel like "Serosenpai the asshole" is probably not his proper title-- or, if he DOES go by it, it's probably not his FULL title. There may be a sir in there somewhere or something similar. Idk, I'd have a sir in my title, if I had one. It just sounds better and gives you an excuse to carry a monocle without people assuming you're a super villain.
But I haven't seen anyone on this site outside of you say they hate him yet. I've seen people disagree with some of his comments, but who gives a fuck. You're not supposed to agree with every person on every thing they say. Our ability to think independently is what separates us from the bumblebees.
That, and we look way less adorable with our butts hanging out of things.
I don’t necessarily agree with her logic, her methods, her politics. We don’t see the same conclusions on many things either, although we can both agree that people getting shot isn’t ideal. That said- wether people think she’s just in it for attention, or emotional, whatever issues people could have with this woman’s views or actions- she’s a child dealing with loss. Being a kid is hard enough, then you survive a shooting, and suddenly politicians and the media and the whole internet are criticizing and judging you trying to not pick you. Career politicians and celebrities who are full grown have trouble dealing with that. She’s just a kid who went through some stuff and is trying to find the other side. Disagree as you like. America is still free. But I’d wish people would have a little more kindness and decency. No need to be personal or offensive. She’s just a kid after all, even if she gets on your nerves.
Yeah. I mean, even if you do hold any political argument to a high standard of proof- that doesn’t mean you should argue with a kid or insult a kid. It’s fine to disagree with a person without going after them or making it personal.
@guest Dude, don’t delete your comments, it throws of the flow of conversations. You usually put time and effort into them, it’s a waste to discard them. None of us hit home runs every time.
My phone was misbehaving and I deleted the comment by mistake. Apologies. If I cared about home runs I wouldn’t write half the stuff I do. I’m not here for likes, I’m here for fun.
Hitler did the same thing for gun control so I guess she is as brave as him good for her. Founding fathers put in place a system of laws and checks and balances for a way of life that has lasted hundreds of years. Maybe a knee jerk reaction and and listening to children that aren't old enough to vote, drink, or even to decide to have sex isn't the smartest idea. Yes we have mass shooting (maybe some one should look in to the medication that all theses kids are on) what we don't have is people being loaded in to cattle cars bound for gas chambers. and that is only one tiny aspect of firearms in this country. Personally I like knowing if there is a home invasion I can grab my AR and defend my self and family instead of grabbing the phone and yelling I've called the police so you better get out of my house with in the next ten to fifteen minutes or you're going to be in real trouble.
Immediately tuning someone out because you don't like one piece of their argument is not a good way to argue. If you don't agree with past of the argument, counter that piece. Don't just say it's shit and that means the whole thing is shit. That in and if itself makes your argument Worse then theirs because you offered no opposing opinions or facts. Just saying it didn't help progress anything.
Well- first off- as Scat said- the hitler hyperbole usually means that it’s not worth the time to deconstruct what comes next. But, I’m bored and killing time. So I’ll play along. 1. Hurler dod a lot of things. Asides being a genocidal dictator he was a charismatic leader and successful politician. Many “good” people have done things Hitler did. If you want proof you can look at the many countries that outright or effectively ban guns and see that they do not have trains bound to gas chambers. So that entire line of logic falls easily. 2. The founding fathers specifically included ways to change laws and even the constitution because they knew things change. The “lasted hundreds of years” falls apart when we look at amendments giving women rights to vote, or prohibiting slavery. Should no one have touched those sacred pieces of wisdom either? 3. Are all these kids and shooters on medication? Sources please.
4. If ignoring an opinion for invoking Hitler “isn’t the best way to argue,” than what of an argument that outright says a persons opinions should be ignored outright- not on the validity of what they say, but by virtue of that persons age? While making a 17 year old president, or even a law maker may be unwise, that doesn’t mean that young people aren’t intelligent and can’t make good points or see things older people can’t or won’t. 5. Comparing a teen shooting survivor to Hitler for speaking freely her constitutionally protected opinion you don’t agree with, and then talking about protecting your rights in the same argument is a conflicting stance. Is the 2nd amendment more important than the rights you say it is supposed to protect? 6. Opinion- I won’t go in to the technicals, but I’d dump the AR for home defense and get something with simple operation and built in reliability, in a caliber or round type that is less likely to over penetrate and has higher stopping power.
my .38 revolver will work just as well in the a home defense and is a small enough round to not be too problematic with such. Don't get me wrong I love my rifles (i wanna get a
tavor SAR at some point but moneys yo) but against someone breaking into a house an AR and a pistol will both result in the same amount of deadness after a few shots plus I've got a bird shot .38 round for my revolver just in case the first 5 standard rounds didn't work
Personally I believe anyone who lives in high crime areas are just as brave everyone they walk out the door (assuming they are not the criminals). They risk their lives walking down the street all day, everyday
It’s somewhat silly isn’t it? Who’s braver, someone who fights 100 bears using a salami, or someone with no legs who wrestles 30 sharks under water? Someone who is comfortable with their feelings but uncomfortable with public speaking proposing in front of a foot ball stadium, or someone uncomfortable with their feelings who’s been hurt proposing alone? Like pain, it’s hard to measure or compare bravery- and there’s no “winner.” People either rise to the challenges life gives them or they don’t. We all face different challenges and can’t be expected to deal with others burdens as well as they would. It doesn’t take bravery to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, and hell- stupidity, apathy, or insanity can all look like bravery. But there’s a real possibility that maybe dairy workers are brave, AND people who live with crime, AND survivors, AND many other people can all be brave in their own ways, and their bravery doesn’t have to diminish each other’s or be put in a contest?
I don’t fight the bears, just poke and run ;-). I get your point, I still have trouble giving props to people who advocate for diminished rights or outright socialism.
She's almost certainly braver than me, but I can think of dozens upon dozens of people braver than her based on what's been said about her so far, and I don't understand why the OP in the post even brought that comparison up in such a provocative manner
Oh, thats not brave?
Neither is Emma.
Either way, I feel like "Serosenpai the asshole" is probably not his proper title-- or, if he DOES go by it, it's probably not his FULL title. There may be a sir in there somewhere or something similar. Idk, I'd have a sir in my title, if I had one. It just sounds better and gives you an excuse to carry a monocle without people assuming you're a super villain.
But I haven't seen anyone on this site outside of you say they hate him yet. I've seen people disagree with some of his comments, but who gives a fuck. You're not supposed to agree with every person on every thing they say. Our ability to think independently is what separates us from the bumblebees.
That, and we look way less adorable with our butts hanging out of things.
tavor SAR at some point but moneys yo) but against someone breaking into a house an AR and a pistol will both result in the same amount of deadness after a few shots plus I've got a bird shot .38 round for my revolver just in case the first 5 standard rounds didn't work