My cousin cant tell me from the electric poll if she takes off her glasses.
i cant even tell my own people from the neighbor country's.
who cares!
just dont assume all Asian are chinenes and all white are american/english.
and black people probably have it worst cause some fucker would just say "Africa"
Well, *this* white person doesn’t identify with a particular country of origin, nor do any of the other white people I know.
Side note: Most third+ generation Americans I know don’t think of themselves in that context. If they do, it’s usually because someone has made them by trying to insist they have some sort of outsider status. I see insistence in this way as insisting on *accurate* racism. Yes, would be better if no racism, but we’ll continue to have it (because stupid losers yearn for an insider advantage their competence can’t earn). “At least be accurate in knowing where I’m from if you’re going to say I should go back.”
Look: If someone cares where they are from, give them the respect of noticing. If they don’t, it’s no insult not to do so.
You’re parsing something that’s generally considered unimportant [edit: in US] to belittle people taking pride in their heritage. Be at peace, if you care about your heritage, with others who do the same.
You're lumping in americans with the rest of the world. The word is bigger than the perspectives of you and other third generation Americans. Go confuse a Czechoslovakian as a Russian and see how they respond. It's not racism, it's called different people being from different countries and having different cultures regardless of the fact that their skin color looks similar. By you calling the differentia unimportant you're doing the premace of your own argument a disservice.
As it happens, I’m fourth generation American with one set of great grandparents. However, I have ancestors who fought in the American Revolution, and all but two U.S. wars since then. Therefore, I don’t see myself as a fourth generation American.
Your argument stands. I don’t know if OP is American or another country. From a unique American perspective, origin of European ancestory is not important. From the perspective of Europeans, I’m wrong. I didn’t mean to cause offense or belittle other perspectives. I’m aware of but often struggle with a highly US-centric perspective, and I’m sorry if that caused me to be dismissive and blinkered. I appreciate the feedback!
I appreciate your respectful tone and your response. It fills me with legitimate joy that people can have a discussion or even argument and still be civil with each other... not a lot of that going around lately.
"European ancestry is not important"
yea uh, no. The sheer amount of people youll meet in america that will call themselves irish or german or french or whatever before they call themselves white is direct evidence of the contrary. Im a mix blooded native american, the white part of my blood is irish and welsh and my white blood is american many many generations. We can trace our bloodline back to George Washington's family.
Cool! I mean it’s “not important” in relation to differences in opportunity, not self-identity. The term ‘white’ encompasses a lot of places of ancestry. If outside the perspective of US or similar (historical and statistical evidence of disparate treatment) then it’s fair to say not being able to tell Thai from Mongolian is equal to not being able to tell Italian from Celt or Swede. But inside the US? It’s often a back door to bad faith action and outright denial of reality. Not always. But often enough that it’s of a piece with racism to see non-white people as an indistinguishable monolith
To not be able to tell what specific country/culture a person is from isn't racist...
To assume someone who looks Asian is obviously Chinese is indeed racist
I actually find it easier to differentiate between Korean, Vietnamese, Chinese and Japanese than I do all my fellow white people. We're like muts; sure, there are some clues, but for the most part it's just so damn mixed even a properly passed down paper lineage won't solve it.
For example, myself... Apparently I'm the eventual result of a German knight and an Irish "queen" from 500 years ago, and then someone somewhere fucked a Cherokee and then someone somewhere fucked a girl who was the result of a very strange (for the times) Moor and Japanese relationship.
I didn't do this research myself, but my mom is obsessed with ancestory dot cawm... as it's something she entertains my grandmother with (who seriously thinks she's pure-blood Irish and can't be convinced otherwise; she seriously thinks everyone with the last name "Brown" is related)... and I'm constantly relayed this information.
There actually are differences you could use to tell by, though. I'm not even white, but I can at least tell the difference between Scandinavian and Celtic.
i cant even tell my own people from the neighbor country's.
who cares!
just dont assume all Asian are chinenes and all white are american/english.
and black people probably have it worst cause some fucker would just say "Africa"
Side note: Most third+ generation Americans I know don’t think of themselves in that context. If they do, it’s usually because someone has made them by trying to insist they have some sort of outsider status. I see insistence in this way as insisting on *accurate* racism. Yes, would be better if no racism, but we’ll continue to have it (because stupid losers yearn for an insider advantage their competence can’t earn). “At least be accurate in knowing where I’m from if you’re going to say I should go back.”
Look: If someone cares where they are from, give them the respect of noticing. If they don’t, it’s no insult not to do so.
You’re parsing something that’s generally considered unimportant [edit: in US] to belittle people taking pride in their heritage. Be at peace, if you care about your heritage, with others who do the same.
Your argument stands. I don’t know if OP is American or another country. From a unique American perspective, origin of European ancestory is not important. From the perspective of Europeans, I’m wrong. I didn’t mean to cause offense or belittle other perspectives. I’m aware of but often struggle with a highly US-centric perspective, and I’m sorry if that caused me to be dismissive and blinkered. I appreciate the feedback!
yea uh, no. The sheer amount of people youll meet in america that will call themselves irish or german or french or whatever before they call themselves white is direct evidence of the contrary. Im a mix blooded native american, the white part of my blood is irish and welsh and my white blood is american many many generations. We can trace our bloodline back to George Washington's family.
To assume someone who looks Asian is obviously Chinese is indeed racist
I didn't do this research myself, but my mom is obsessed with ancestory dot cawm... as it's something she entertains my grandmother with (who seriously thinks she's pure-blood Irish and can't be convinced otherwise; she seriously thinks everyone with the last name "Brown" is related)... and I'm constantly relayed this information.