Not condoning violence. Just pointing out that a lot of public proponents of "pedophilia is a sexual orientation" are connected to groups actively trying to legalise pedophilia because they are pedophiles who don't care that they're hurting children.
I'm all for psychiatric treatment of pedophiles but people who insist on pushing it as a sexual orientation needs to be punched in the face with a bullet.
@thatguyyouknow I share your anger and disgust at people who would harm children for their own self gratification. But as society I want us to be better than them.
If putting words into other people's mouths is the best you can do, I'm not going to bother continuing. Go, murder whoever you like and call yourself a hero. Well done.
I wouldn't say that @thatguyyouknow. I think @karlboll is half right and so are you. Psychiatric care to the death penalty is appropriate in my mind.
If they struggle with an attraction they don't want and desire help then they deserve a chance to fix themselves. If an individual is a repeat offender who shows no desire for rehabilitation then I'm not paying for his food and water. Kill them and move on. .22LR is cheap. Shoot him and focus on evaluating the next guy.
I think there are instances where treatment is warranted, instances where lifetime imprisonment is warranted, and instances where death is warranted.
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There are some pedophiles that are not remorseful, will never be cured, and actively look forward to re-offending.
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There are different levels to the criminal acts themselves. I've heard of people flashing a child being labelled a pedophile, for instance. And while I absolutely do not agree with someone doing that with that kind of intent, I don't know it warrants death - or a worse punishment than, say, someone who uses their own baby to bludgeon another human being (not being hyperbolic with that example).
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A 19 year old who has "consensual" sex with a 16 year old should not be put to death for that
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It's not a clear cut issue so you need to be very specific in what you're talking about imo
In regards to "being better" - that seems a somewhat moot point when the alternative to death is literally a lifetime in a cage of either isolation or Victimization. Because, at the end of the day, that IS what a prison sentence most often becomes for a pedophile that can't be released into society.
It’s easy to get emotional about this but jumping straight to unequivocal murder seems like a bit much. 1 in 20 pedophiles are the monsters; the ones we think about and want to kill. The other 19 out of 20 are either lonely and don’t know how to handle it or they’re angry and don’t know how to handle it.
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Pedophilia isn’t yet linked in any statistically meaningful way with childhood events. It is something else. It’s certainly *not* a sexuality.
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Also, this is a little point but, to be clear, pedo means “child,” so pedophilia is the uncontrollable sexual attraction to prepubescent children. Ephebophilia is the uncontrollable sexual attraction to teenagers. There are different mechanisms at work that drive someone to one or the other. So, treating one is totally different than treating the other. Both groups are proven to respond exceptionally well to treatment, except any 1 in 20. Recidivism is lower for these types of offenses than everything else but murder.
Don't you think society thought about "death penalty" for this already? Do some research. You know what happens when you make "death penalty" for sexual crimes? The criminals have no reason to leave their victims alive and are far FAR more likely to kill the children. So yeah, you get to kill pedos, but you also have a bunch of dead kids (and likely pedos that got away with it b/c they killed the only witness). Also, there is a lot of misplaced loyalty from the children to their offenders, and if the children knew that aunt Jan would be killed then they will never come forward and suffer in silence. So you go ahead and feel like big damn heroes for proclaiming "pEdO bAd mE hErO!" while your betters use logic and evidence to drag your dumb ass into the future you don't deserve but get to enjoy anyway.
I'd actually like to see some citations to the research he's done in regards to the death penalty increasing child homicide rates, since generally there's rapists and there's murderers, and there's rapists who are also murderers, but those often come from different psychological profiles to begin with
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There are also currently at least 3 states in America iirc that have the death penalty as an option for pedophiles although I don't think it has ever been enforced. Not sure about other countries
Sexual orientation is what you're sexually attracted to isn't it?
If they struggle with an attraction they don't want and desire help then they deserve a chance to fix themselves. If an individual is a repeat offender who shows no desire for rehabilitation then I'm not paying for his food and water. Kill them and move on. .22LR is cheap. Shoot him and focus on evaluating the next guy.
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There are some pedophiles that are not remorseful, will never be cured, and actively look forward to re-offending.
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There are different levels to the criminal acts themselves. I've heard of people flashing a child being labelled a pedophile, for instance. And while I absolutely do not agree with someone doing that with that kind of intent, I don't know it warrants death - or a worse punishment than, say, someone who uses their own baby to bludgeon another human being (not being hyperbolic with that example).
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A 19 year old who has "consensual" sex with a 16 year old should not be put to death for that
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It's not a clear cut issue so you need to be very specific in what you're talking about imo
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Pedophilia isn’t yet linked in any statistically meaningful way with childhood events. It is something else. It’s certainly *not* a sexuality.
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Also, this is a little point but, to be clear, pedo means “child,” so pedophilia is the uncontrollable sexual attraction to prepubescent children. Ephebophilia is the uncontrollable sexual attraction to teenagers. There are different mechanisms at work that drive someone to one or the other. So, treating one is totally different than treating the other. Both groups are proven to respond exceptionally well to treatment, except any 1 in 20. Recidivism is lower for these types of offenses than everything else but murder.
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There are also currently at least 3 states in America iirc that have the death penalty as an option for pedophiles although I don't think it has ever been enforced. Not sure about other countries