Is this that bitch who wouldn't shut the fuck up when asked politely to leave and the cop got angrier and angrier until something happened?
Something about a pool party and a fight?
Yeah, that's the cop who bravely broke up a pool party full of teenage girls and pointed his gun at a 14 year old before tackling and handcuffing her. Real hero, that one.
When you're politely asked to do something entirely reasonable and within your power to easily complete, you don't stop what you're doing, turn around, and get in their face spewing bullshit.
My money's on one of the southeastern states if it's the same incident I'm thinking of.
EDIT: well...my south state is right. morebacon has the article somewhere else down in the comments and you can probably find the video too which would be much better than listening to my biased and time-fuddled recollection.
I absolutely agree, if you are being an ass you deserve the cops coming down hard on you. Cops of course should always use thier positions wisely, never abuse thier power, and should set an example for the average citizens by living respectively and morally.
Okay, if you are PHYSICALLY THREATENING THE COP you deserve to end up face-down on the ground. If you are yelling at the cop? Not unless you got a knife out or have visibly committed a crime. Cops are there to protect the law and people's property, not their precious egos.
Um..no. If any person touches you it's assault. It doesn't matter if you are a cop, security guard, or just a citizen. You can press charges and they will ho to jail.
Perhaps I should reword my statement.
Yes everybody must not react until they've been touched (because that's battery). But I was talking to the group that instigates the whole thing. Use common sense, play nice, don't get up in people's faces, it's really not that hard to do.
But if police show up for a call and someone is yelling in thier face and whatnot while the cops is assessing the situation that is hindering an investigation which is a crime in itself
Point of order:
Assault is the threat of violence
Battery is the actual violence
But for some stupid reason you can be stabbed from the back without any warning and the person will still be charged for assault and battery. Even though there was no threat.
@aeacus No, but I'm pretty sure that 14 year old girl in a swimsuit didn't have a knife on her. I don't agree with these kids but that was a dumb argument.
Yes that is what I was implying but seeing as we're talking about this instance right now I was staying on topic and talking about the girl not just any random interaction with a cop.
Ok lets stay on topic then. There were many more people than police. She didn't comply gets gun pointed at her. Officer shouldn't have to wait to be physically assaulted to draw weapon.... did I miss anything?
No they shouldn't but as a police officer you should be able to handle a non threatening situation without pulling a gun on civilians, especially minors who he knows obviously can't hurt him.
I would disagree on the especially minors part. Just because they're minors doesn't mean they can't or won't do damage. Saw recently a cop being attacked by a mob of people while trying to arrest one person
Well that's a mob compared to this skinny 14 year old girl. So you think that as a police officer you shouldn't have to be able to handle a non threatening situation without pulling a gun on civilians?
There was a mob of kids it wasn't just this one girl. And just because its non threatening at first doesn't mean it won't lead to that you don't treat any call as routine when you're an officer. He was responding to a call about a fight at the pool and there's a difference between until sterling a weapon and pointing it
Yes but what I said was "No they shouldn't but as a police officer you should be able to handle a non threatening situation without pulling a gun on civilians" and you said " I would disagree" so do you stand by that statement is what I was asking
I was raised if you treat a cop with respect they will treat you with the same. My father was a fireman, a fire marshal, a state fire marshal, a cop and a detective. So I was raised to really respect them. And I do, every time I see videos of people who could of just said one little thing and they be on their way but instead they go on and on about you have no right to blah blah blah, to the point where the cop is really aggravated it pisses me off. The man is just doing his job the best he can. But no these people were raised with a silver spoon up their ass and think they are holier than thou. OMG they make me mad. I just picture my Dad having to deal with them and I feel like punching the crap out of them.
Ok I need to calm down GOD JUST ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTION!
sorry for the rant
The cop was overreacting and abusing his power imo, however the kids were being disrespectful deserved it. It's debatable whether the girl did though, she very well could've just been completely innocent going to a party and had not been there when the kids were trying to fight the owner for their pool. I think in the video you can't really see whether or not she did something to aggravate the cop. She shouldn't have gotten a gun pulled on her though, and that cop seemed out of control.
She definitely deserved everything except the gun pull, but you could (weakly) argue that she was giving the cop so much shit that he had to do something drastic to get her to shut up (which she didn't).
If she was talking shit but from a distance then that's freedom of speech unless she threatened him. Now if she was in his face that's a different story.
It's been about a year since I've seen the video. IIRC, there was the video published as well as a news article on the internet and the news article clarifies something that the video makes seem like an assumption. The following is what I remember and put together...
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The girl was on her way to a pool party with some friends. When they got there, they found the party being broken up by police due to a fight or something (the article didn't go very much into those details because it was covering police-bitch interactions, not police-party dealings). I don't remember the next event, but it came down to the cop asking the girl and her friends to leave/make space as she was shouting abuses at him. This went on for at least three minutes when things started getting physical, likely due to the cop trying to force her back to get his space. Something something, she's now told she's being arrested for obstructing police (well deserved)
But how did it all start you ask?
because the cop asked her to move back and she decided to bitch out. I think there may have been a race comment in there too.
BUT
the beginning of the video shows two BLACK BOYS being sat down on the curb by police. They were very respectful, listened to orders, and it was a very instructor-pupil atmosphere between them. Basically it was "I'm gonna need you boys to sit down here and stay here, alright" "sure officer, is it alright if I wiggle around and play on my phone" "sure, but just stay right around here so that we can talk later" "alright".
This was no race issue. This was a girl being a god awful bitch and I am so proud of the officer that he took her abuse for as long as he did.
Alright thanks for informing me better on it. And @aeacus I meant the kids deserved punishment but not necessarily what they got, and cop was kindve out of control. Edit: I'm also running on 2 hours of sleep so I'm gonna use that as an excuse for any dumb shit I've said lol
I agree. But many times the force it's is way too extreme. Just arrest them. No need to burried thwir heads to the floor or kill them (i can't breath) I agree this girl was annoying and probably deserved it. However, i know a guy just graduated from police academy. I don't think he will make a good cop. He already is kind of racist and thinks you have to use this much force. If they don't yet, they need to be trained to manage these situations and control people with better skills. I am sure you can bring some martial arts concepts to the mix. This guy only did a 6 months course and that is it. It is different times. I think they need different training.
Of course there are bad ones just like people. I recently saw a video clip of a police chief losing his temper because a reporter had asked a question about him being on his phone while at a public meeting and turns out he was getting updates on a crime that happened involving a 5 year old being shot on her dad's lap die to gang violence and he said everyone can name the cops who kills person but 80% of death involving guns 80% of injuries involving guns and other statistic are by gang members and no one can name them...
It seems that these bash-a-cop trends are because people can't or won't see the other side. They seem to hold police to a standard of dignity and patience that would strain even the Pope.
And i agree aeacus. But I believe (because i know a couple) people get into it for the wrong reasons (sence of power, fast training to start) and that is the start of the problem, I believe. And just like other professions like Doctors whi get into medicine for image and money. Of course there are many good ones whom I also personally know and are excellent people and cops. I think if they make the training longer or change something you might be able to weed out the bad apples.
I think a nice social experiment would to have people who want the security and protection of law enforcement get it, while those who think along the lines of "Fuck the police" can do without.
Raise people to respect others and themselves is an important message. But OP used the wrong picture. This picture was taken from an incident in my city where a girl was having a pool party at her neighborhood pool which was in a predominately white, gated neighborhood. Word got out and a bunch kids from their high school came to crash the party by hopping the fence. The police were called. When this officer showed up he began screaming at all the black kids to get out. That girl (one of the friends that were actually invited) you see in the picture went to the officer trying to explain the situation. He snapped at her and forced her to the ground. Things only stopped escalating when he pulled out his gun and the other two officers calmed him down.
The officer resigned. He said that before that pool party he responded to some serious situations that caused him a lot of stress. But either way, as a police officer, you can't be reckless with other people's lives.
The version I heard, a girl spread word of a party with a pool but the pool actually belonged to someone else and when the teenagers didn't get the pool they started trying to get in anyway and the police were called.
If he's so good then why did he resign -_-
even he agrees he was doing the wrong thing
He pulled a gun on unarmed teenagers which is really fucked up considering you only meant to do that to armed people
Something about a pool party and a fight?
EDIT: well...my south state is right. morebacon has the article somewhere else down in the comments and you can probably find the video too which would be much better than listening to my biased and time-fuddled recollection.
Yes everybody must not react until they've been touched (because that's battery). But I was talking to the group that instigates the whole thing. Use common sense, play nice, don't get up in people's faces, it's really not that hard to do.
Assault is the threat of violence
Battery is the actual violence
But for some stupid reason you can be stabbed from the back without any warning and the person will still be charged for assault and battery. Even though there was no threat.
Ok I need to calm down GOD JUST ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTION!
sorry for the rant
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The girl was on her way to a pool party with some friends. When they got there, they found the party being broken up by police due to a fight or something (the article didn't go very much into those details because it was covering police-bitch interactions, not police-party dealings). I don't remember the next event, but it came down to the cop asking the girl and her friends to leave/make space as she was shouting abuses at him. This went on for at least three minutes when things started getting physical, likely due to the cop trying to force her back to get his space. Something something, she's now told she's being arrested for obstructing police (well deserved)
because the cop asked her to move back and she decided to bitch out. I think there may have been a race comment in there too.
BUT
the beginning of the video shows two BLACK BOYS being sat down on the curb by police. They were very respectful, listened to orders, and it was a very instructor-pupil atmosphere between them. Basically it was "I'm gonna need you boys to sit down here and stay here, alright" "sure officer, is it alright if I wiggle around and play on my phone" "sure, but just stay right around here so that we can talk later" "alright".
This was no race issue. This was a girl being a god awful bitch and I am so proud of the officer that he took her abuse for as long as he did.
Here's the article.
The officer resigned. He said that before that pool party he responded to some serious situations that caused him a lot of stress. But either way, as a police officer, you can't be reckless with other people's lives.
even he agrees he was doing the wrong thing
He pulled a gun on unarmed teenagers which is really fucked up considering you only meant to do that to armed people
Wowee you guys are having a pool party better threaten to kill a teenager
im a good human being
10 points to me