We're a superpower whether the rest of the world likes it or not. Same goes for China and Russia.
But it's good that other nations are willing to step up to the plate and deal with their own problems, rather than wait for us to do it for them.
2 world wars.
Rebuilding Europe after killing the Nazis.
Killing dictators while containing Soviet influence.
And trillions of dollars in aid and relief.
And that's only in the last 100 years.
Dropping TWO f*cking nuclear bombs on civilian targets is really something to be proud of...
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Would you have rather the war dragged on longer and killed even more people or, god forbid, having to nuke Tokyo or even Berlin, had the Manhattan project been completed earlier?
You are actually defending the use of the most horrific weapon of mass destruction ever created. Hitler could have done the same, they were close, but even the Nazi regime opposed using chemical warfare, let alone nuclear weapons.
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It was the only way to prevent more deaths. If we hadn't used those nukes there'd have been tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, dead on both sides.
We made Purple Hearts (medals awarded for injury in combat) in preparation for the invasion of Japan.
The invasion never happened, but we didn't run out of the medals until after 2000. Think about that, it took decades of war, from Korea to Vietnam to the War on Terror to suffer the casualties we expected from a SINGLE operation. If you don't think that justifies the bombs, then you're simply beyond reason.
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The Nazis weren't opposed to using chemical weapons on civilians.
What about Cambodia, during the Vietnam War? We bombed them because we suspected that the Vietnamese were smuggling supplies through there, which ultimately led to Pol Pot overtaking the government. Or our involvement in Afghanistan during the Cold War, where we supplied weapons and trained militant groups that grew into terrorist organizations?
Cambodia was giving safe passage to the NVA, in doing so they picked their side.
The Mujahideen were our best shot at keeping the Soviets from taking a large chunk of the Middle East, short of a counter-invasion that would've quickly turned into WW3. Frankly, I'll pick 9/11 over a rejuvenated Soviet Union having enough money and resources to escalate the Cold War or maybe even beat NATO in a conventional war any day of the week.
Oooohhh, they condemned their past. Platitudes. I’m sure they would have done the same without getting every city bombed and losing nearly every male for two generations.
The Nazis saw a nation made desperate, and the other powers kept playing the appeasement card.
There are countless factors that led to WW2, many of those factors are inarguably negative. The German people going their own way is not one of those factors.
Well we're 2-0 so far.. I like our odds. After all since Germany went all environmental we could bomb the hell out of you and you couldn't fight back with nearly as much force. Don't get me wrong, not advocating for a war, and bombing Germany is the last thing i'd wanna do. Just pointing out itd be absolutely stupid of Germany to pick a fight with us just because they don't like President Trump.
Edit: I expected this to be an unpopular opinion but apparently not lol.
The funny thing is that nobody needs to pick a fight with the US. At least not in the only way the US knows (bombing). It's totally enough to have a prosper economy, maintain it and watch those guys flushing their own country, society and economy down the drain.
No one's picking a fight except Trump. He's removing policies and treaties that have been on the books since before most of us were born. Why? He's a mad man that seems to want to change everything to help the rich man.
He's taking back our sovereignty, supporting our closest ally, and putting pressure on the people that have been calling for our screaming death since before our grandparents were born.
He's not mad, he's a patriot, and it's a damn shame we didn't have someone like him sooner.
yeah i dont hate obama but gosh dang fam i just thought he was a pussy couldnt stand up for himself people just walking all over him all the time trump could shut up more but i appreciate standing up for us.
Is it wrong that I was thinking we should focus on Central and South America so we can lower illegal immigration?
I simply want to see what would happen to that culture and people if they could live a better life.
A bit like a toddler hiding behind his hands. If he can't see you, you don't exist. Or like that gangster wanna be that "hates the police" but they're the first person they call when something bad happens to them. Personally I wouldn't mind going back to a separatist policy but alas it's not practical in this day and age.
Unfortunately, when I said not practical I really meant impossible. In this era it is truly impossible to completely separate ourselves from the world stage without a drastic change in how we handle both foreign and domestic affairs neither of which we'd be willing to do as a people. Basic consumerism has become too ingrained in our society to allow the changes required. Money really does make the world go around and governments do not make money they are a parasite on every economy without exception. Regardless of what some people would have you believe. Example: We'd have to close our borders. This doesn't just mean to people it means no exports, no imports, nothing gets through. That's a good 12% of our GDP. Doesn't sound like a lot? Imagine you got a 12% reduction in wages but everything stayed the same price or more likely got more expensive since 14.1% of our GDP is spent on importation.
Looking from the outside in, I constantly see that a massive amount of Americans are extremely Narcisstic about their country. So much so, that they consider other countries inferior in almost everyway. Also the fact that Americans hold onto their guns even tighter when tighter gun laws are reccomended, and say, "Hey we might bomb 'em" reakly shows they have no tact at all. Now this isn't all Americans, Just the majority which I have seen. Yoy lot are basically saying "Hey my dad could beat up your dad" which hopefully you can all see how idiotic that is.
Narcissistic? Brother, we are the most powerful nation this planet has ever seen. Saving the world from fascists, communists, and radical theists.
Our history is blood and liberty. Fighting battles, winning wars, and always willing, no, eager, to get our feet wet and our hands dirty.
The difference between pride and arrogance is whether it's earned, whether you can back it up. Considering that our conception was a violent revolution from the then most powerful empire on earth, and that we haven't slowed down since, I'd say we've earned that privilege.
No real American would have it any other way.
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Except for maybe the British Empire. But then again, we beat them too.
What was factual about it? That was strictly your opinion. And quite an unpopular one might I add. It's sad that you can't be a patriot without being called arrogant.
We completed our objective and got North Vietnam to agree to let South Vietnam be.
It's a damn shame the dems weren't willing to go back when the NVA invaded anyways, but by them we accomplished our mission.
You accomplished nothing in the war of 1812, and Vietnam you had to get a treaty signed cause you couldn't actually accomplish what you need to. You didn't win either of those wars buddy.
The war of 1812 was a cluster fuck. We didn't win, but losing would've meant being taken over by someone else, which didn't happen.
Our military objective in Vietnam was to defend South Vietnam until the communist North recognized their sovereignty. If we wanted to, we could've destroyed North Vietnam with ease. We should've, but that might've sparked something with the Soviets backing them.
We brought North Vietnam to the negotiating table, they agreed to leave South Vietnam alone, and then America went home. Then NV breaks the agreement they helped negotiate, and the new Democrats in power were too chicken-shit to go back.
@kolorblind US sailors were no longer impressed into Brit service that’s really all that needed to happen. The US gained minimal ground (and much sea). British financial losses were staggering as they lost over 1000 ships. The biggest losers of this war weee the natives. They were armed by the Brits and directed to attack the Americans. This started the 100 years of conflict that saw the native populations decimated and the survivors forced onto reservations and the eventual rise of ridiculous casinos.
You may have killed my great ancestors, but now your government sends my mother checks, and gives her free hunting/fishing licenses, so who's the real winner?
I thought this was going to be a problem until I noticed this is a Tumblr screen cap.
This commenter isn't exactly wrong, but is massively naive to think it's that simple. They would do well to remember the radical and often schizophrenic shifts in international relations the US has every 4-8 years and whose military bases are on who's soil.
Eh, either we'll agree or we'll disagree. No reason to be afraid to comment. Everyone's entitle to form an opinion. We don't have to agree with that opinion or even respect that opinion as long a we respect that they have the right to make an opinion. No use being all politic about it because at the end of the day you really shouldn't care a lick what we think or what we say. This isn't some world stage theatre that could affect the nations it's just a website that's literally supposed to be about not being serious. And really the majority of the "USA, USA, USA" is just for kicks. Sure we're proud to be a citizen of the country but we certainly don't form our identity and behavior solely around that fact. Really, what baffles us most is the lack of even minute patriotism from many countries around the world. You're Chinese? Be proud of China it's your country your interest "should" be for China first then the rest of the world.
But it's good that other nations are willing to step up to the plate and deal with their own problems, rather than wait for us to do it for them.
Rebuilding Europe after killing the Nazis.
Killing dictators while containing Soviet influence.
And trillions of dollars in aid and relief.
And that's only in the last 100 years.
The invasion never happened, but we didn't run out of the medals until after 2000. Think about that, it took decades of war, from Korea to Vietnam to the War on Terror to suffer the casualties we expected from a SINGLE operation. If you don't think that justifies the bombs, then you're simply beyond reason.
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The Nazis weren't opposed to using chemical weapons on civilians.
The Mujahideen were our best shot at keeping the Soviets from taking a large chunk of the Middle East, short of a counter-invasion that would've quickly turned into WW3. Frankly, I'll pick 9/11 over a rejuvenated Soviet Union having enough money and resources to escalate the Cold War or maybe even beat NATO in a conventional war any day of the week.
Germany.
There are countless factors that led to WW2, many of those factors are inarguably negative. The German people going their own way is not one of those factors.
Edit: I expected this to be an unpopular opinion but apparently not lol.
He's not mad, he's a patriot, and it's a damn shame we didn't have someone like him sooner.
I simply want to see what would happen to that culture and people if they could live a better life.
Our history is blood and liberty. Fighting battles, winning wars, and always willing, no, eager, to get our feet wet and our hands dirty.
The difference between pride and arrogance is whether it's earned, whether you can back it up. Considering that our conception was a violent revolution from the then most powerful empire on earth, and that we haven't slowed down since, I'd say we've earned that privilege.
No real American would have it any other way.
It's a damn shame the dems weren't willing to go back when the NVA invaded anyways, but by them we accomplished our mission.
Our military objective in Vietnam was to defend South Vietnam until the communist North recognized their sovereignty. If we wanted to, we could've destroyed North Vietnam with ease. We should've, but that might've sparked something with the Soviets backing them.
We brought North Vietnam to the negotiating table, they agreed to leave South Vietnam alone, and then America went home. Then NV breaks the agreement they helped negotiate, and the new Democrats in power were too chicken-shit to go back.
This commenter isn't exactly wrong, but is massively naive to think it's that simple. They would do well to remember the radical and often schizophrenic shifts in international relations the US has every 4-8 years and whose military bases are on who's soil.
America relies on you, friend.