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· 7 years ago
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Yes. This is why both are legal where I live
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guest
· 7 years ago
Nevada?
deleted
· 7 years ago
The Netherlands
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guest
· 7 years ago
Close enough, they both start with N
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norwegiangirl
· 7 years ago
NE even
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dancadamorte
· 7 years ago
Yes. Goes for male prostitutes as well. It's their body, if they want to do sex work then they can do sex work.
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silvermyth
· 7 years ago
Prostitution should be legal so that it can be regulated more safely.
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mrfahrenheit
· 7 years ago
Yeah sure. Suicide, Assisted suicide, prostitution, abortion, marijuana. Legalize the shit out of it
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alekazam
· 7 years ago
@mrfahrenheit The 'yeah sure' reads as sarcastic, but I agree with what you say... were you being sarcastic...?
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mrfahrenheit
· 7 years ago
Nah, no sarcasm. Just Kiwi nonchalantness. Nonchalancy?
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betterthanyou
· 7 years ago
One of these is not like the others.
trashmanrevenge
· 7 years ago
no dude this is wrong. I do agree with marijuana and abortion is legal but seriously you are willing to help somebody kill themselves and then allow people to whore out their bodies what is wrong with you from a humanitarian stand point.
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mrfahrenheit
· 7 years ago
People should have the freedom to do what they want to do as long as nobody else gets hurt. YOu wanna sell your body for sex, go ahead. As for the assisted suicide, I believe people have a right to die with dignity, and choose when that death happens. Would you prolong the suffering of a terminal patient?
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trashmanrevenge
· 7 years ago
assisted suicide is more than that. I think that someone who wants to die is extremely selfish i also believe that most suicide cases stem from temporary issues and not thinking clearly at the time. Also you are allowing a women to harm herself and in most prostitution cases its not voluntary. She is forced to prostitution from gangs they dont do it because they love it 9/10 times.
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third
· 7 years ago
You think it would be humanitarian to force someone to live in a paralyzed state? For me a true least, life wouldn't be worth living, and I'd sure as hell want to die, if I couldn't be used for experiments or whatever. People have the right to control their own lives.
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trashmanrevenge
· 7 years ago
Assisted suicide is a broad term it can be because they are depressed in which most cases is true. That is unhealthy and not right because someone has emotional problems they should just kill themselves. It is selfish because you are abandoning other people because all you are thinking about is you. IF you are depressed you are giving up on everybody that has loved you because you cant handle it. In fact the one assisting you you are forcing them to have the weight of killing you on them all the time that aint right.
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mrfahrenheit
· 7 years ago
Well no, because in the event of assisted suicide the doctor prescribes a lethal dose of medication, but doesn't administer the drugs himself. That job is the patient's. The patient also must give oral and written permission, be verified as mentally healthy, and, a week later, repeat oral and written permission. People have the right to do what they wish with their own body, after all, they own it.
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trashmanrevenge
· 7 years ago
yeah but people dont know best either or sometimes they arent thinking right. People still feel the weight regardless of consent. What about suicide based on depression will you assist that.
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mrfahrenheit
· 7 years ago
Trained professionals don't feel the weight, and usually there are hospital therapists to deal specifically with suicide guilt. As for people aren't thinking right, that's why they have to make the decision twice, a week apart, and be legally sane, with no mental health issues
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trashmanrevenge
· 7 years ago
what about depression last for a long time do you condone assisted suicide answer the question.
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mrfahrenheit
· 7 years ago
I believe assisted suicide should be legalized, but only for people suffering from a terminal illness that leaves them with no more than 6 months to live.
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trashmanrevenge
· 7 years ago
there we go that is all i had to prove was that not all assisted suicide is legal. Who gets to determine the extent of assisted suicide though?
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mrfahrenheit
· 7 years ago
Like I said above, assisted suicide must be confirmed by a trained medical professional, who is then allowed to prescribe a lethal dose of medication, but is not allowed to administer them. This makes the trained professional the one assisting with the suicide. The patient must be verified by a psychiatrist, and consent must be given both verbally, and written, with a signature. The patient must wait a week, and again confirm his request, both verbally and in writing. Only then can the doctor prescribe the medication.
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trashmanrevenge
· 7 years ago
but what if half the population disagrees. What if 1/3 says no 1/3 says complete assisted suicide and then 1/3 says hey i want it like how you want it. then who gets to determine that. Does 1 opinion usurp another? or is there some kind of tie breaker?
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mrfahrenheit
· 7 years ago
The government of the country decides.
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geluregis
· 7 years ago
In the US, it's the Supreme Court who'd decide
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trashmanrevenge
· 7 years ago
so 9 people get to decide the morals for the rest of the country? No the supreme court gets to determine there rights as protected by the constitution. Which the constitution if i recall does not tell people they are allowed to assist in someones death.
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mrfahrenheit
· 7 years ago
Those 9 people aren't exactly idiots. They didn't get there simply by standing in line
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trashmanrevenge
· 7 years ago
im not saying they are idiots but im not saying they are in positions to determine morals for the a country that has population of 321 million people.
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mrfahrenheit
· 7 years ago
There is a reason why they are there. And it isn't just them. There would be representatives from every state as well
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trashmanrevenge
· 7 years ago
no one can say someones morals are better then others because morals are morals. A phd does not mean you have better morals. A higher education does not mean you have better morals.
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mrfahrenheit
· 7 years ago
They wouldn't discuss morals, they would discuss ethics.
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trashmanrevenge
· 7 years ago
why are they more educated on an idea that has no right or wrong and get to determine which way it goes they still shouldnt be allowed to determine ethics. A majority can but 9 people just because their educated cant
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mrfahrenheit
· 7 years ago
Ethics and morals are different kiddo. Ethics are like saying "Animal abuse is bad" Its widely accepted. Morals differ from person to person depending on where they're from, how they're raised, exctera. Ethics are what society thinks as a whole.
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trashmanrevenge
· 7 years ago
yeah but if there is a division in it then its not widely accepted and 9 people dont get to say what is widley accepted.
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mrfahrenheit
· 7 years ago
I can say with almost absolute certainty that more people believe assisted suicide should be legal. Also, you aren't paying attention. I said that not only would it be the Supreme Court, it would also be debated by delegates from each state, along with mental health experts and leading physicians.
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trashmanrevenge
· 7 years ago
Idgaf what delegates think though and we dont know that and im saying hypothetically if there was a split down the middle not one side should be able to force their beliefs on another.
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mrfahrenheit
· 7 years ago
However, this isn't a hypothetical question. It is an actual topic of contention, and the majority agree with my points. The model I proposed is almost the exact same as the one they want to use, and so far you haven't found a single flaw
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third
· 7 years ago
Selfish or not, suicide is ones own damn right, and it is selfish of others to force them not to do it, if they really wish to.
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trashmanrevenge
· 7 years ago
ok idk who is agreeing with you but ok. I didnt know there was a report that more then half the population agrees. It is not their right it is not protected in the constitution. It is not selfish to stop them it is trying to help them from making a decision that will kill them or harm them to a point where they are worse off then they were before the attempt.
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third
· 7 years ago
If they need help, then yes. If it is because someone doesn't want to deal with losing them, that's selfish.
trashmanrevenge
· 7 years ago
i know that im not saying that is a reason but im saying that leaving behind your family is selfish on their part.
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geluregis
· 7 years ago
It falls under the pursuit of happiness, and if they are already near death or better off dead, then there's good reason to give them their own way out.
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deleted
· 7 years ago
Assisted Suicide is highly regulated and not a thing taken lightly. They won't help you die if it's just depression, you have to be terminally ill/ extremely debilitating medical condition with a low quality of life. In the end we offer this kindness to animals which is kind of twisted as they cannot consent to dying but not to terminally ill cancer patients or those suffering from ALS who want to die but can't do it themselves? Yes, choosing to take your life/having your life taken IS selfish but most families of the people wanting Assisted Suicide understand the pain and degradation they're constantly living in and support their choice, it's not the same as regular suicide where your pain is just merely passed onto others in a selfish way.
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mrfahrenheit
· 7 years ago
Hear, hear. Let's hope he listens this time. 8th time's the charm
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betterthanyou
· 7 years ago
Trashman is one dense muddafudda.
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trashmanrevenge
· 7 years ago
would have cared 8 hours ago dont care now
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netizencain
· 7 years ago
An overwhelming number of working girls are slaves. You don't legalize something that enslaves people just so you can feel better about your pervy behavior.
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7ombie
· 7 years ago
first, did you mean *pervy? Second, one of the reasons sexual slavery is such a problem is because when the slaves go to the police they fear being prosecuted for prostitution (which they often are) so they don't reach out for help. By legalizing sex work you give the victims a better chance to reach for freedom.
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netizencain
· 7 years ago
(Ya... fixed that, unless you're a Percy). Go listen to any interview or talk by Rebecca Bender. Human traffic isn't what it seems,
third
· 7 years ago
Lots of farm and factory workers are too. Perhaps we should also ban those professions.
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kurama_otsutsuki
· 7 years ago
Exactly. Just because an aspect of it can be abused doesn't mean it should be illegal. @third nailed it. There are slaves being forced to work on farms in today's world. Should be ban agriculture? Of course not because we have regulated agriculture into a form that works even better than slavery.
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mrfahrenheit
· 7 years ago
Prostitution should be legal because it's my only hope
guest
· 7 years ago
Yes
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coldpasta
· 7 years ago
Abortion should be legal.. but not Free.. you want to change your body, you pay for the procedure.. #JustMyOpinion
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deleted
· 7 years ago
Most Planned Parenthood clinics do ask for a donation.
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lindsmolinari
· 7 years ago
adoption isn't getting a tattoo! it's not /altering your body/ for the fun of it, it's a lot more complicated and often there's other important things connected to it like one's health, independence, etc.
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deleted
· 7 years ago
Do you mean abortion?
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celticrose
· 7 years ago
If the production of porn is legal than why the hell isn't prostitution?
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deleted
· 7 years ago
Both are legal in lots of countries
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lemmingoverlord
· 7 years ago
The real question is whether people who prostitute themselves are doing it because they want to or because they are being forced. This is why in most (western) countries prostitution in itself is not a crime (from a legal standpoint), but pimping is.
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guest
· 7 years ago
Yes.. legalised and regulated. Why are those two questions together like that as though it's some new concept
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rebel
· 7 years ago
Unfortunately, a lot of these women do NOT have control of their bodies. Many are forced into it.
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deleted
· 7 years ago
That is very sadly true, and that kind of prostitution should stay illegal whereas if it IS voluntary then it should be legal.
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funkmasterrex
· 7 years ago
yep.
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kurama_otsutsuki
· 7 years ago
Yup. Both should be legal.
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norwegiangirl
· 7 years ago
In Norway, selling sex is legal, but buying sex is illegal.
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kurama_otsutsuki
· 7 years ago
So I can buy the sex but not use the sex? Can I like frame it up on a wall?
norwegiangirl
· 7 years ago
"So can I buy the sex?" No, litterally just said that buying is illegal.
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pterodactylsheep
· 7 years ago
You know it's a shitshow when there is 76 comments
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mrfahrenheit
· 7 years ago
I am responsible for most of them.
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ladychaos114
· 7 years ago
Yes.
guest
· 7 years ago
its illegal because people have higher chances of getting certain diseases and america doesnt want an outbreak
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trashmanrevenge
· 7 years ago
no most cases its not the woman having an option its usually due to a pimp or they cant get money. If women voluntarily love having sex and getting paid its called porn.
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alekazam
· 7 years ago
That's when it's being filmed and released on websites and such. And I can safely say not all the girls in porn "love having sex"
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trashmanrevenge
· 7 years ago
i get that but i think prostitution is a terrible thing that is not as voluntary as people think i think it spreads around tons of stds and is a lowering of our society. Not to mention that it is an occupation that is not productive in any way shape or form.
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geluregis
· 7 years ago
If it's not legal, it can't be regulated. If it's legal, then it can be put to safety standards like any other service
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trashmanrevenge
· 7 years ago
It can be regulated but it doesnt mean its gonna happen. Not to mention you are spreading stds to people and it is non productive. it does nothing for society.
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mrfahrenheit
· 7 years ago
It should be legalized, on the condition that prostitutes use or provide condoms
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deleted
· 7 years ago
So according to trashmans logic, escorts spread STDs? Theres nothing wrong with prostitution if it's voluntary. Not to sound funny it's a service that's as old as humanity itself, a service people are obviously willing to pay for and if it can be legalised it can be regulated AND taxed bringing in more money to the economy. And yeah condoms should be a non negotiable requirement.
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kurama_otsutsuki
· 7 years ago
It's the whole stupid "Sex is sacred" tradition. Prostitution is a job. Even if you don't enjoy it. Most people hate their jobs.