OH I THINK I GET IT
Is it teaching about base-10 and powers? Because I can see how this would be one way of teaching that except it's a really dumb way of wording the question.
I think it's more of an "easier" way to add if you can't get the answer right away. If you get can make 8 into ten by taking 2 from 5 and then add the remainder of three, you'll know that it's 13. It's like counting up to an easier number to add. Sounds absolutely ridiculous and this question's wording is pure shite but it helps some people.
It's what I did in my head when I was a little kid.
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· 7 years ago
So here's the thing.
A lot of kids, when first learning addition, will create shortcuts in their heads that go like so: 8+5... well I know that 8+2 is 10, and I know that 5-2 is 3. If I take 2 away from 5 and add it to the 8 I'll have 10+3, which is an easier math problem than 8+5.
One of the goals of Common Core was to help children realize on paper 1) how math works and 2) how your brain figures out math.
The biggest problem is that these new methods for learning and, almost more importantly, meta-learning (learning how to learn) were not and still are not taught to the people coming up with the curriculum, the packaged workbooks, the tests, homework sheets, etc.
They've also never been taught to the 50+yo teachers who've been in the system for 25 years OR the college students currently hoping to be teachers.
Common Core had some really cool goals, but the terrible rollout just killed it.
Long comment, here are 5 potatoes and 8 potatoes. Now you have 10.
Actually, I'm homeschooled, and I appreciate it greatly. I have found it very advantageous: no lines to wait in, no class ranking, no rowdy other kids distracting you from learning, no peer pressure...
And, of course, specialized curriculum focused directly on your individual learning style (if the teaching parent puts in as much effort as my brilliant Mum has.)
The academic benefits, too, can be tremendous, as testified by the numerous Ivy League colleges that have enthusiastically accepted both me and my homeschooled friend, throwing around words in the process like "full ride scholarship" and "honors programs."
All of this being said, I will give you a warning. Homeschooling is in no way easy. If you're not prepared to make at least a 6- or 8-year commitment to broadening these kids' minds and raising/teaching them right, then it's probably not for you.
Please at least make sure they have regular socialization. All of us have drastic social anxiety problems now that we've been reintroduced to mainstream society.
@abel_hazard
I'm very sorry about that. But please, know not all homeschoolers are like that. I come into contact more with adults and the elderly than with people my own age, but I've never really had any problems.
As a side note, did you ever go on "field trips?" Or to co-ops, volunteer/service project groups, or extracurricular activities?
Yeah. Mom kept me in all the field trip programs and "Friday school" for subjects she couldn't teach. It just didn't make up for the day-to-day volume of peer interaction I was missing.
*shrugs* I'm not sure that means what you think it means. I spent my sixth grade year in public school, because I begged to, but when the year was over I begged to go back to homeschooling. Peer interaction is important, yes, but not the end-all be-all of socialization.
Oh, no, I LOVED home schooling while I was being home schooled. It just served me rather poorly (in social terms, not educational terms - even in advanced classes, it took my peers a year or two to catch up to me when I rejoined the system) when I was eventually dumped back into school and then into college and work.
@abel_hazard, sorry for the bad experience you endured because of it. I actually do have friends who were homeschooled before I met them in college, and they didn't say they had many problems when they got into higher education, their parents made sure their kids had all sort of social interactions to make up for it. I've heard more complains from people studying in only-girls/guys schools than homeschooling, and yes, i had friends from those too.
That being said, @thorspoptarts2, i do know how... challenging it can be, but I'll be damned, my faith in the American educational system, public or otherwise, is not that great. I spent the one HS year i attended in this country bored to tears, and that was after i was placed in a 'challenging setting'. I was so bored the teachers mistook it for depression. I came from a country in which 9th graders were being taught stuff 12th graders in the US saw. Someone took the GED using our books from 7th/8th grade. So yes, I'm willing to do what it t
I wish you the best: maybe it'll work out better. Just be aware that I'm not just relaying individual personal experience. Six out of the eight people I know who were home schooled (including myself) had similar experiences - not all in Christian environments, and not all from the South.
Thanks, but still, it'll be a while until it happens, so we'll see how things have turned out by then. Meanwhile, I'll stockpile any type of relevant information i can find about the topic so I won't be getting into this clueless
Thank you for sharing your experience, it's enlightening to hear both sides.
Most of us learned to read using various phonetics techniques, and there seems to be a general agreement that we learned both reading and reading comprehension faster and more fully than a lot of our later peers. Dunno if that helps, but just in case.
@loveless
I understand your motivation entirely. I hope it all turns out well for you. As for resources, there are many online communities that can help first time homeschoolers. Also, if you need any curriculum recommendations, I know quite a few good ones from the student's point of view.
I don't think this has anything to do with Common Core. Common Core only refers to general educational objectives. It doesn't dictate specific worksheets or methods.
That said, I can't say I've specifically looked over Common Core's math standards. So maybe this is indirectly related.
But Common Core or not, the travesty here is a poorly-worded question. Little more.
I have reviewed a lot since I'm about to homeschool my kids. The people who are pushing common core are also pushing the badly worded and in some cases completely wrong math questions in the approved books and learning materials the teachers receive.
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· 7 years ago
I just finished a Calculus course and if this was on a test I probably would have left it blank tbh
I WAS IN MIDDLE SCHOOL WHEN THEY INTRODUCED COMMON CORE AND I HATE IT AND IT SUCKS AND IT MADE ME SO CONFUSED AND I FAILED 7TH GRADE MATH AND I HOPE SOMETHING IS DONE ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT IS PURE BULLSHIT!
Common core isn't bad. I always did math in my head that way when I was growing up. Back then, they'd place me in some advanced class based off the teaching structure and sh!t would get complicated. Common core is great, or society has a poor understanding of math. It also seems a lot harder for parents to have difficulty with their kids math work lately. I mean, it's OK to forget high school math or weird rules that lead to something better. Just let the transition happen.
It's a much harder way to learn. Sure the method may be an easy way to learn but it's a dumb way once you get to higher levels. For example, remember adding and subtracting equations to find the variables? I hated doing that. I refused to do that until linear algebra and then it suddenly clicked that the way they were teaching me was a very valid and easy way to solve systems of equations as opposed to brute-force substitutions.
The way math is taught now transitions just fine into calculus and I can't see any reason to teach addition this way besides using it as a lesson in bases. 8+5=13=10^1+3*10^0
They are supposed to figure it out by splitting one of the numbers into two parts (for instance, splitting the "8" into "5+3") in such a way that one of the components combines with the other number to make 10. This is, essentially, teaching the associative property of addition without ACTUALLY bothering to teach what the associative property is, which is stupid.
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Is it teaching about base-10 and powers? Because I can see how this would be one way of teaching that except it's a really dumb way of wording the question.
A lot of kids, when first learning addition, will create shortcuts in their heads that go like so: 8+5... well I know that 8+2 is 10, and I know that 5-2 is 3. If I take 2 away from 5 and add it to the 8 I'll have 10+3, which is an easier math problem than 8+5.
One of the goals of Common Core was to help children realize on paper 1) how math works and 2) how your brain figures out math.
The biggest problem is that these new methods for learning and, almost more importantly, meta-learning (learning how to learn) were not and still are not taught to the people coming up with the curriculum, the packaged workbooks, the tests, homework sheets, etc.
They've also never been taught to the 50+yo teachers who've been in the system for 25 years OR the college students currently hoping to be teachers.
Common Core had some really cool goals, but the terrible rollout just killed it.
Long comment, here are 5 potatoes and 8 potatoes. Now you have 10.
Obviously Math teachers don't have it
And, of course, specialized curriculum focused directly on your individual learning style (if the teaching parent puts in as much effort as my brilliant Mum has.)
The academic benefits, too, can be tremendous, as testified by the numerous Ivy League colleges that have enthusiastically accepted both me and my homeschooled friend, throwing around words in the process like "full ride scholarship" and "honors programs."
All of this being said, I will give you a warning. Homeschooling is in no way easy. If you're not prepared to make at least a 6- or 8-year commitment to broadening these kids' minds and raising/teaching them right, then it's probably not for you.
I'm very sorry about that. But please, know not all homeschoolers are like that. I come into contact more with adults and the elderly than with people my own age, but I've never really had any problems.
As a side note, did you ever go on "field trips?" Or to co-ops, volunteer/service project groups, or extracurricular activities?
That being said, @thorspoptarts2, i do know how... challenging it can be, but I'll be damned, my faith in the American educational system, public or otherwise, is not that great. I spent the one HS year i attended in this country bored to tears, and that was after i was placed in a 'challenging setting'. I was so bored the teachers mistook it for depression. I came from a country in which 9th graders were being taught stuff 12th graders in the US saw. Someone took the GED using our books from 7th/8th grade. So yes, I'm willing to do what it t
Thank you for sharing your experience, it's enlightening to hear both sides.
I understand your motivation entirely. I hope it all turns out well for you. As for resources, there are many online communities that can help first time homeschoolers. Also, if you need any curriculum recommendations, I know quite a few good ones from the student's point of view.
That said, I can't say I've specifically looked over Common Core's math standards. So maybe this is indirectly related.
But Common Core or not, the travesty here is a poorly-worded question. Little more.